<div dir="ltr"><div>Greetings Bert, thank you for your comments.</div><div><br></div><div>This is my first proposal in Openstreetmap, so I'm sorry if I didn't use some of the best practices about mapping with nodes. I can only say that I tried to get all the info I needed before I created it, and I certainly didn't want to trigger anyone. Could you explain to me what is the problem with my wording? I think that many features in the wiki have an indication similar to mine, in which the choice is left to the mapper regarding whether to use an area or a node. I'm of course open to changing or removing that part if it's not following the community best practices.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<font face="Verdana">You don't say anything about mapping the
wall itself, within the pitch. How to tag that wall if we map it
as a line or an area ?<br></font></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>
I'm really not sure on that one, I have found no good solution to indicate the wall position. The
solution that seemed less bad to me was to have a tag to specify which
segment (or segments, as circular walls exist) of the area have the wall but I
didn't really like it. Another possibility would be to use a multipolygon for the pitch in order to split it in ways and tag one of them with barrier=wall. Ultimately I decided to leave it out of the proposal as I didn't consider the side where the wall lies really important from a mapping point of view.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<font face="Verdana">What about mobile walls ? What about
pitches with mixed use ?</font>
</div></blockquote><div>If I understand correctly, you mean some sort of wall that can be moved and goes on a normal tennis pitch. In that case, I would map the pitch as a normal tennis pitch and avoid mapping the wall at all, as it's not a permanent feature on the terrain. If, however, this wall is practically always on the same position the pitch could be mapped as two practice_pitch, both with tennis=wall, as they would be two de facto separated pitches usable only for training.</div><div><br></div><div>Mixed use poses indeed a problem. Personally I haven't seen a tennis wall sharing the space with another pitch, but I imagine it would only take a part of, say, a basket pitch, so I'd use two areas that partially overlap. I didn't consider the problem before now though.</div><div><br></div><div>Greetings</div><div><br></div><div>Michele Galimberti<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mer 14 lug 2021 alle ore 15:07 Bert -Araali- Van Opstal <<a href="mailto:bert.araali.afritastic@gmail.com">bert.araali.afritastic@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font face="Verdana">How to map needs more clarifications and
should be consistent with our good practices.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">You don't say anything about mapping the
wall itself, within the pitch. How to tag that wall if we map it
as a line or an area ? What about mobile walls ? What about
pitches with mixed use ?<br>
Stating that "</font><font face="Verdana">as a node if the
aerial imagery is not precise enough or the position is unclear
for other reasons" get's a definite no from me. You promote
using nodes in positions that are incorrect or inaccurate and
most of all not verifiable ?<br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">I am not a tennis player so I used the
following link to get an idea what a tennis wall is and how it's
used: <a href="https://tennis-uni.com/en/tennis-wall/" target="_blank">https://tennis-uni.com/en/tennis-wall/</a>.
Adding some examples would be highly appreciated. You triggered
me though with non compliance of our good practices.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Greetings,</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Bert Araali</font><br>
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<div>On 14/07/2021 11:11, Michele Galimberti
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Tennis walls are small pitches with a wall used by tennis
players to train alone, that at the moment don't have a scheme
for mapping in Openstreetmap. This proposal adds one for them,
in order to increase the mapping of this feature and provide
more info on specific training facilities.<br>
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<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tennis_wall" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tennis_wall</a><br>
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Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.</div>
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