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<div dir="auto">Food in UK pubs is slightly complicated by
franchise kitchens and by the Food Hygiene Rating Service, i.e.
the food side of the business is treated as a separate entity to
the drinks/snacks side. In OSM this results in 2 nodes inside
the same building, or a pub polygon with a fast-food/restaurant
node inside it.
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<p>In a situation like that, where the "food" business is entirely
separate to the pub and just happens to use the pub for premises,
what would you tag the food business as - assuming doesn't pass
the duck test as a restaurant, or a fast food place, or similar?
In at least one of its incarnations over the last 10 years the
Exeter Arms in Derby (which a few GB mappers will be familiar
with) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=91803260">http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=91803260</a> was in this
category, but I'm not sure if it still is.</p>
<p>To provide a slightly longer answer to Mateusz' original question
the sorts of things I think about tagging on pubs in the UK
include:</p>
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<li>Is it actually open or not, and if it's not, is that "not yet
reopened after Covid" or something else?</li>
<li>How good is it at being wheelchair-accessible?</li>
<li>Which pub operating company / brewery is it attached to?</li>
<li>Is there a beer garden or other outside seating?</li>
<li>Is there a car park?</li>
<li>Does it serve real ale?</li>
<li>Does it serve food *?</li>
<li>Does it do accommodation?<br>
</li>
<li>If it's in the countryside and I walk in there with muddy
boots on, will I have to take them off to avoid dirtying the
carpet?</li>
<li>Has it got a coal / wood or similar fire<br>
</li>
<li>Is it a micropub or does it have a microbrewery on site?<br>
</li>
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<p>That's very much a rural GB-biased list of course, elsewhere many
of these won't be relevant and other things will be instead, and
like with all OSM tags it doesn't matter that everyone doesn't
bother checking for every possible tag (and I certainly wouldn't
suggest that a default "StreetComplete" pub quest included all of
the above!).</p>
<p>Best Regards (and cheers!)</p>
<p>Andy</p>
<p>* Personally I'd say anything from a pork pie upwards counts as
"food" but a bag of crisps on its own does not. In England and
Wales a "substantial meal" is actually defined by common law**
(see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.hospitalitylaw.co.uk/pub-or-restaurant-is-your-meal-substantial-enough/">https://www.hospitalitylaw.co.uk/pub-or-restaurant-is-your-meal-substantial-enough/</a>
) and the definition became famous in England before Christmas
because it was reused as part of the "when you are allowed to go
to a pub in times of Covid" rules.</p>
<p>** I am not a lawyer but I have provided computer advice to
them...</p>
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