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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div class="ydp9d39ac4cyiv5261563869yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Warin wrote:</span><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> But if there is only 1 PV
panel osm object in the plant, it's not possible to use <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> power=plant + power=generator on a same object. Is it <span>appropriate
to create <br></span></div><div class="ydp9d39ac4cyiv5261563869yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><span>>> a relation with only one element?</span><br><div>> Err the wiki
<a shape="rect" class="ydp9d39ac4cyiv5261563869moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dgenerator" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dgenerator</a> says ...
<br></div><div>> small independent generators (such as domestic solar panels),
especially those <br></div><div>> generating less than 1 MW, should not be tagged
as a power plant. This is known <br></div><div>> as distributed generation. </div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Sorry I didn't say it clearly.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I know that many users including me would map hundreds of <span><span>adjacent</span></span> PV panels</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">as a single OSM area. It won't be <span>ambiguous at cases on the ground because <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>we can draw the boundary of a power plant like the wiki example:</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/43.2724/6.0215" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/43.2724/6.0215</a><br></span><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div>Greg Troxel wrote:<br></div>> Sure, but the the OP is talking about 500k panels which is 10 MW if they<br clear="none">> are 200W panels, and or course more if more. Definitely feels like<br clear="none">> power=genarator, rather than DG.</div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Actually my case consists 350W/each module, 181 MW total peak power, <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">and the size is 175 ha. It is easily found on the Bing aerial image</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=24.120074~120.424741&style=h&lvl=15" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=24.120074~120.424741&style=h&lvl=15</a></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">And it is obvious to divide those into 4 separate district but a mapper just <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">drew a single area in OSM.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I tried to draw a sketch to clarify between ground and floating power plant.<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://i.imgur.com/9nGdDX5.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/9nGdDX5.jpg</a></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><br clear="none">> FWIW, I'd split power=generator vs DG not strictly on size but on<br clear="none">> whether it's just panels on an existing building to integrate, vs<br clear="none">> something purpose installed just for power. There's a site near me<br clear="none">> which is probably not a full MW, but it's a lot of panels in a field,<br clear="none">> with no associated other buildings or use, and it was put in for the<br clear="none">> sole purpose of power generation. It might be 0.5 MW, or 0.2 MW, but<br clear="none">> definitely vastly more than the usual 10 kW class home DG, or even 100<br clear="none">> kW DG on a commercial building.</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">IMHO, I don't like to describe whether a solar installation a power plant or <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">not by peak power but output voltage. It depends on how those inverter <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">connect to the power gird <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_inverter" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_inverter</a></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I've ever seen a 5 MW solar rooftop on giant factory not far from my home. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">That should not be seen as a solar farm (as I think).<br></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">St Niklass <st.niklass@live.nl> wrote: <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div style="font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);">> Have a look here <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.5440/6.1499" id="ydpc0afd240yiv3939942935LPlnk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.5440/6.1499</a></div>
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> Just tag the solar screens seperatly if you you like inside an
landuse:industrial area and ad all the > components / parts or islands
with a multypolygone.</div> <div><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>I don't like this practice the way someone mapped this object because it <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>broke the water body of a lake. How it been rendered is a technical problem <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>fixed in a technical way. Other map style not using the plant feature would <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>see a strange hole inside a lake?</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Tan<br></span></div></div></div>
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在 2021年8月19日 星期四 下午08:33:47 [GMT+8]， Martin Koppenhoefer<dieterdreist@gmail.com> 寫道：
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<div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">sent from a phone<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> On 19 Aug 2021, at 13:51, Greg Troxel <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gdt@lexort.com" href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com">gdt@lexort.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> FWIW, I'd split power=generator vs DG not strictly on size but on<br clear="none">> whether it's just panels on an existing building to integrate, vs<br clear="none">> something purpose installed just for power. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">sounds like a good idea. Maybe we can amend the wiki? <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Cheers Martin <div class="yqt5370358987" id="yqtfd95643"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Tagging mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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