<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Volker</div><div><br></div><div>From my understanding, both siphon and inverted-siphon are pressurised.</div><div>Siphon uses suction to pull water downstream which implies a positive pressure in its middle, without air.<br></div><div><br></div><div>This is an interesting concept we could classify with additional tags dedicated to siphons.</div><div>Some pumps use this principle to raise level of a liquid (see pump_mechanism=siphon <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pump_mechanism">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pump_mechanism</a>)</div><div><br></div><div>Do you have real example of working siphon please?</div><div>I only seen inverted siphons (mainly for sewage under roads or rivers) in the past.</div><div>This is the bottom of an inverted siphon (maybe 3m in diameter) to make water cross a valley <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/405871631">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/405871631</a></div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>François<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 14 sept. 2021 à 17:12, Volker Schmidt <<a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com">voschix@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Question to François: is an inverted-siphon (botte sifone, pont-siphon) piece of waterway to be mapped as pressurised? </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 14 Sep 2021, 16:18 François Lacombe, <<a href="mailto:fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Kyle,<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 14 sept. 2021 à 03:24, Kyle Hensel <<a href="mailto:K.y.l.e@outlook.co.nz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">K.y.l.e@outlook.co.nz</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-NZ"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Is there are reason why waterway=pressurized is used instead of waterway=river/stream/canal/drain and pressurized=yes?</p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, waterways are defined according to their permanent flowing regime. Some are free flowing, others are pipe flowing.<br></div><div>A given waterway can't be both as it requires a special prerequisites to handle pressurised water.</div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Waterways#Artificial_waterways:_pressurised_vs_Open-flow_Waterways" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Waterways#Artificial_waterways:_pressurised_vs_Open-flow_Waterways</a></div><div><br></div><div>This table gives all values according to their regime</div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway#Values" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway#Values</a></div><div><br></div><div>River, streams, canals and drains are defined as free flowing waterways, so it wasn't consistent to propose pressurised=yes for them.</div><div>If a river goes punctually in a permanent pressurised culvert, waterway=pressurised + tunnel=culvert sounds the most appropriate possibility.<br></div><div>By the way, a river relation can obviously involve sections with different regimes.</div><div><br></div><div>In a perfect world we would have cleared waterway=* from all other values than flowing regime (move waterway=pier or waterway=fuel to man_made or amenity).</div><div>Never mind, I go back sleeping :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>François<br></div></div></div>
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