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<body>Ann-Karoline,<br>Building=church is not used because it's a place of worship, but because the building have a church architecture. <br>Is there something really special about creamery buildings that they can be recognized easily as such?<br>Regards,<br>Yves <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 17 septembre 2021 20:25:45 GMT+02:00, Anne-Karoline Distel <annekadistel@web.de> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<p>I hadn't checked out Ireland on OpenHistoricalMap before, it
seems to be empty apart from rivers. I usually come across
creameries when I'm working on adding buildings to OSM and check
against the British War Office map to see if there's anything of
interest, house names, ringforts etc. I'm not planning of changing
my efficient and industrious routine completely around and only
map historical things. That cannot be my priority, when we still
have 3.5million buildings to map.</p>
<p>We have building=church where the church is not used as a place
of worship any longer, but as a residence, library or restaurant
and that's tagged and seems to be okay. Why not creameries?</p>
<p>Milk is not made in a factory, it comes from a cow. It might be
bottled in a factory, though. Unless it is non-dairy milk, but
that's not what I'm talking about here. From an international, not
native English speaker perspective, I would understand and support
the preference for <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">butter_factory</font>,
but chances are that everyone in Ireland (and the UK) is gonna tag
them as "creamery" anyway, because that is what they are called
there and what's in the old maps and potentially the name of the
café it has been converted into or what's on the blue plaque
outside it.</p>
<p>Anne<br>
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<div dir="auto">The previous usage of buildings is something for
OpenHistoricalMap. Many buildings were previously something
else: pubs, warehouses, post offices, etc. IMHO the proposed
tagging does not belong in OSM.</div>
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<p>I'm thinking of creating a tag for historic
creameries. I don't know anything about modern ones,
they could possibly included, but the situation in
Ireland in the past was that farmers brought their
milk to the local ceamery, it was skimmed and the
cream made into butter or cheese and the farmers
took the rest back home to feed to pigs or
something. I don't know all the technicalities, but
those buildings were purpose built, often still
recognizable by their architecture, mostly vacant
now, but some are converted into cafés, warehouses
or other commercial uses apparently. </p>
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<div>In Australia, they were often called a "Butter
Factory", & there are still a number of them still
named & standing, but sadly, no longer operating.</div>
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<p>I'd favour <font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace">building=industrial</font> + <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">historic=creamery</font>
plus <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">start
</font>and <font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace">end_date</font> whereever known, and of
course the current use, if it isn't vacant and/ or
derelict.</p>
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<div>I think that would be the way to go, except that ours
would be historic=butter_factory. Or would =milk_factory
be a good catch-all term?<br>
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