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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/9/21 8:39 pm, 80hnhtv4agou--- via
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        <div>private;</div>
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        <div>you need to go to the person who wrote it. <br>
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    <p>There is no 'need'.</p>
    <p>It would be a curtsy, but it is not a requirement. <br>
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          padding:0 0 0 10px;">Sunday, September 19, 2021 3:25 AM -05:00
          from Jan Michel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jan@mueschelsoft.de"><jan@mueschelsoft.de></a>:<br>
           
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                <div id="style_16320399170440434440_BODY">Dear all,<br>
                  we currently have two different prefixes for things
                  that are not what<br>
                  they seem to be or might have been:<br>
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                  no:XX<br>
                  - 200 uses with 20 different keys<br>
                  - <a
                    href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:no"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:no</a>:<br>
                  - <a
                    href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=no%3A"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=no%3A</a><br>
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                  not:XX<br>
                  - 20k uses with 200 different keys<br>
                  - <a
                    href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:not"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:not</a>:<br>
                  - <a
                    href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=not%3A"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=not%3A</a><br>
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                  Both Wiki pages read almost identical, with slightly
                  different<br>
                  stress on objects that don't exist any more but are
                  still visible on<br>
                  images versus objects that never existed but could be
                  assumed to be<br>
                  there.<br>
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                  I think the current situation with two almost
                  identical tags is a bit<br>
                  unfortunate and should be resolved.<br>
                  I see two possible options here:<br>
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                  - define the different scopes of the two tags more
                  clearly and stress<br>
                     the differences on both Wiki pages.<br>
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                  - mark the less used 'no:' prefix as deprecated and
                  favor the quite<br>
                     common 'not:' prefix instead.<br>
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                  Jan<br>
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