<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="all"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 09:16, Sebastian Gürtler <<a href="mailto:sebastian.guertler@gmx.de">sebastian.guertler@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Short answer before (after a lot of reading...): According to the
wiki and the meaning of the english word "clinic": A "clinic" that
admits inpatients is an "amenity=hospital; healthcare=hospital" ...<br>
</p><p><span title="Ancient Greek (to 1453)-language text" lang="grc">Additionally
there is the term "Tagesklinik", quite similar to English "day
hospital" according to wikipedia, an institution which offers a
typically 5/7 days continuous treatment but without staying
there at night (e.g. psychiatric or psychosomatic treatment). In
Germany it is formally a special form of inpatient treatment
"teilstationäre Behandlung" with the legal status of normal
inpatient treatment "vollstationäre Behandlung" for employed
patients ...</span></p><span title="Ancient Greek (to 1453)-language text" lang="grc"> But one problem
remains: what about the day hospitals. In the original English
wiki page there is no mention of day hospitals but in the german
"translation" it's written that "amenity=clinic" includes
outpatient institutions AND day hospitals (which are in Germany
formally inpatient institutions). The current tagging makes no
differences between an "clinic" (german: "Ambulanz") and "day
hospital" (german: "Tagesklinik") ...</span>
<p><span title="Ancient Greek (to 1453)-language text" lang="grc">I
looked at the tagging practice in Germany: Of 284 Objects with
"Tagesklinik" in the name there were 103 with amenity=clinic and
25 with amenity=hospital; 88 with healthcare=clinic 14 with
healthcare=hospital. Other taggings:
health_facility=hospital/clinic. Of 78 Objects with a given
speciality there are 52 of the psychiatric area, which are
clearly "teilstationär" - closer to inpatient than to outpatient
treatment, as a day hospital, not a "clinic".</span></p></div></blockquote><div>I raised concerns about the overriding use of "hospital" some time ago, after looking at them & finding things like normal medical centres (including 1 dentist's office!), ambulance stations & even a vet all mapped as hospitals!</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, these are all clearly errors, but we also then have dental hospitals, day-surgery centres, psychiatric hospitals & such places as drug & alcohol addiction clinics all tagged as hospitals as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, they are all healthcare facilities that treat patients, & some of them have in-patient facilities, but none of them are places that you can go to in search of emergency medical treatment.</div><div><br></div><div>Is a (possibly?) simple answer to this changing the rendering?</div><div><br></div><div>At the moment, all hospitals render with the white cross on a red circle background, &, in a number of cases, people have tagged the Emergency / Casualty Ward as another hospital, purely so that it will render.</div><div><br></div><div>How about changing it so that "hospital" renders as a white H on a blue square background (similar to, but also different to, the helipad symbol of a white H on a blue circle); & then either using the existing white cross on red (or possibly even changing it to the internationally recognised white on green first aid symbol?) for Emergency?</div><div><br></div><div>Would that work?</div><div><br></div><div>(& yes, I know we're talking about ~200000 existing tags!)<br> </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div><br></div></div>