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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Oct 25, 2021, 08:56 by graemefitz1@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 09:16, Sebastian Gürtler <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:sebastian.guertler@gmx.de">sebastian.guertler@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p>Short answer before (after a lot of reading...): According to the
wiki and the meaning of the english word "clinic": A "clinic" that
admits inpatients is an "amenity=hospital; healthcare=hospital" ...<br></p><p><span title="Ancient Greek (to 1453)-language text" lang="grc">Additionally
there is the term "Tagesklinik", quite similar to English "day
hospital" according to wikipedia, an institution which offers a
typically 5/7 days continuous treatment but without staying
there at night (e.g. psychiatric or psychosomatic treatment). In
Germany it is formally a special form of inpatient treatment
"teilstationäre Behandlung" with the legal status of normal
inpatient treatment "vollstationäre Behandlung" for employed
patients ...</span><br></p><div><span title="Ancient Greek (to 1453)-language text" lang="grc">But one problem
remains: what about the day hospitals. In the original English
wiki page there is no mention of day hospitals but in the german
"translation" it's written that "amenity=clinic" includes
outpatient institutions AND day hospitals (which are in Germany
formally inpatient institutions). The current tagging makes no
differences between an "clinic" (german: "Ambulanz") and "day
hospital" (german: "Tagesklinik") ...</span> <br></div><p><span title="Ancient Greek (to 1453)-language text" lang="grc">I
looked at the tagging practice in Germany: Of 284 Objects with
"Tagesklinik" in the name there were 103 with amenity=clinic and
25 with amenity=hospital; 88 with healthcare=clinic 14 with
healthcare=hospital. Other taggings:
health_facility=hospital/clinic. Of 78 Objects with a given
speciality there are 52 of the psychiatric area, which are
clearly "teilstationär" - closer to inpatient than to outpatient
treatment, as a day hospital, not a "clinic".</span><br></p></div></blockquote><div>I raised concerns about the overriding use of "hospital" some time ago, after looking at them & finding things like normal medical centres (including 1 dentist's office!), ambulance stations & even a vet all mapped as hospitals!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Yes, these are all clearly errors, but we also then have dental hospitals, day-surgery centres, psychiatric hospitals & such places as drug & alcohol addiction clinics all tagged as hospitals as well.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Yes, they are all healthcare facilities that treat patients, & some of them have in-patient facilities, but none of them are places that you can go to in search of emergency medical treatment.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">amenity=hospital is suitable also for places without emergency medical treatment<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Specifically, for example psychiatric hospitals are also hospitals.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But dentist office, ambulance stations or vet are not and should be retagged.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div class=""><div>How about changing it so that "hospital" renders as a white H on a blue square background (similar to, but also different to, the helipad symbol of a white H on a blue circle); & then either using the existing white cross on red (or possibly even changing it to the internationally recognised white on green first aid symbol?) for Emergency?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Would that work?<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Note that specific rendering in specific map styles is out of scope of tagging mailing list.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">and tagging emergency=yes/no is enough to provide tool for rendering that<br></div><div dir="auto">if anyone desires<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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