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<div>For me it looks like a sidewalk, maybe a bit wider than usual. I would use<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">highway=footway (with very optional area:highway=footway area)<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">or<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">use sidewalk tags on road, if that would be a local standard.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">highway=pedestrian<br></div><div dir="auto">or<br></div><div dir="auto">highway=pedestrian area=yes<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">seems to be not fitting for this, in my opinion.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div>Oct 27, 2021, 16:43 by nathancase@outlook.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div class=""><p class=""><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks all for the comments so far.</span><br></p><p class=""><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p class=""><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This is the Google maps Streetview link: <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@52.4457248,-1.8176195,3a,75y,243.25h,90.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svoVWzs3jxPFNcpfhvpc4eg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.google.com/maps/@52.4457248,-1.8176195,3a,75y,243.25h,90.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svoVWzs3jxPFNcpfhvpc4eg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192</a></span><br></p><p class=""><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p class=""><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hopefully that works OK. Travel to the right to see more.</span><br></p><p class=""><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p class=""><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers.</span><br></p><p class=""><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=""><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b>Sent:</b> 27 October 2021 12:07<br> <b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br> <b>Cc:</b> Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz@tutanota.com><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] When does highway=footway become highway=pedestrian?</span></p></div></div><p class=""> <br></p><div><p class=""> <br></p></div><div><p class=""> <br></p></div><div><p class=""> <br></p></div><div><p class="">Oct 26, 2021, 16:00 by <a href="mailto:nathancase@outlook.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> nathancase@outlook.com</a>:<br></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #93A3B8 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class=""><span lang="EN-US">Hi all,</span><br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class=""><span lang="EN-US"> </span><br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class=""><span lang="EN-US">I’ve just posted this on the Wiki discussion page (</span><a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian#.22For_town_centres_and_civic_areas.22" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span lang="EN-US">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian#.22For_town_centres_and_civic_areas.22</span></a><span lang="EN-US">)
but the thread is a little old and I know not everyone reads the Wiki anyway…</span><br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class=""><span lang="EN-US"> </span><br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class=""><span lang="EN-US">I’m wondering at what point, if at all, a highway=footway becomes highway=pedestrian (i.e., a pedestrian area)? </span><br></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="">There are several things here<br></p></div><div><p class="">- sidewalk tags (sidewalk as attribute of road)<br></p></div><div><p class="">- highway=footway<br></p></div><div><p class="">- highway=pedestrian for pedestrian road<br></p></div><div><p class="">- area:highway=footway for area of footway/sidewalk (mapped as an extra)<br></p></div><div><p class="">- highway=pedestrian area=yes for pedestrian squares<br></p></div><div><p class="">- highway=pedestrian area=yes misused for footway/sidewalk areas<br></p></div><div><p class=""> <br></p></div><div><p class="">Note that the last one claim may be controversial, some claim that mapping<br></p></div><div><p class="">sidewalk as highway=pedestrian area=yes in addition or instead to<br></p></div><div><p class="">highway=footway line is OK.<br></p></div><div><p class=""> <br></p></div><div><p class="">In some places such mapping is really popular.<br></p></div><div><p class=""> <br></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #93A3B8 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class="">I have an example (<a target="_blank" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/365487665#map=18/52.44601/-1.81904" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/365487665#map=18/52.44601/-1.81904</a>)
of a sidewalk that has been mapped as a pedestrian area. It is certainly quite wide (around 7-8 m in places) and is located within a town centre/civic area. It even has painted markings (since COVID-19 pandemic began) splitting the direction of travel for
pedestrians - though this is, of course, entirely ignored by everyone walking there.<br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class=""> <br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class="">However, it is, fundamentally, just a wide paved area for pedestrians that runs parallel and adjacent to the main carriageway (road) – i.e. a sidewalk.<br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class=""> <br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class="">Do we define particularly wide sidewalks as pedestrian areas? They do seem to match most of the criteria listed on the Wiki but it doesn’t seem to quite fit for me.<br></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="">Linking photos would be useful. In principle I can imagine place that can be treated<br></p></div><div><p class="">as a dual carriageway, one of them mapped as highway=pedestrian line.<br></p></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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