<div dir="auto">As I've been reading this long discussion the thought that keeps coming up in my mind is that "relation are not categories": <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations_are_not_categories">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations_are_not_categories</a><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For this naive foreign mapper, it would seem that a given town-to-town "basic" route might itself be a relation (with member ways or nodes guiding between those two start/end points). It doesn't make sense to make a huge relation that includes all "officially recommended" "basic" routes between all communities. Such a huge relation would merely be a category. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I may be misunderstanding what is being suggested, but instead of huge relations with thousands of members, how about defining a simple tag/tags that can be applied to highway ways that are officially recommended? `bicycle=designated` is an access rule, but maybe something like `bicycle_usage=recommended` or any other keys/values that get at the heart of what is being recommed.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 10:47 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nov 23, 2021, 11:16 by <a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">voschix@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #93a3b8;padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>One important thing (at least for me) that is emerging from this discussion, is an underlying, not documented, assumption that I am making, and that i shared most likely by all of my OSM cycling friends in Italy are sharing, but that some people in this discussion are explicitly not sharing:<br></div><div>bicycle (and hiking ) routes in OSM are touristic routes. They are not geared towards "the safest and fastest connection".<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">bicycle (and hiking ) routes in OSM are signed routes.<br></div><div dir="auto">I believe that it is documented?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Typically it will be touristic route, but safest and fastest connection may also appear.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Note that touristic routes are quite likely to be safe connections (if they designers<br></div><div dir="auto">were competent)<br></div> </div>
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