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<div>I would propose automated retagging of<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">healthcare:speciality=dental_oral_maxillo_facial_surgery<br></div><div dir="auto">to<br></div><div dir="auto">healthcare:speciality=oral_and_maxillofacial_surgery</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/healthcare%3Aspeciality=dental_oral_maxillo_facial_surgery" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/healthcare%3Aspeciality=dental_oral_maxillo_facial_surgery</a> <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It was discussed about year ago but ended without conclusion.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Dec 28, 2020, 17:04 by stefan.tauner@gmx.at:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 22:44:13 -0800<br></div><div>Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>I believe the speciality is normally referred to as "maxillofacial surgery"<br></div><div>- however "oral surgery" is perhaps more commonly known:<br></div><div>https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/oral-surgery?q=maxillofacial+surgery<br></div><div><br></div><div>As mentioned before, you can call it "oral and maxillofacial surgery" if<br></div><div>you want to be long-winded, but that seems unnecessary:<br></div><div>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_and_maxillofacial_surgery#United_Kingdom_and_Europe<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks Mateusz and Joseph. Indeed, I should have looked up the<br></div><div>real-world circumstances better first. So the topic is actually fixing<br></div><div>the spelling of dental_oral_maxillo_facial_surgery and the possible<br></div><div>unification of the two.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I am not necessarily against merging them together to<br></div><div>maxillofacial_surgery since the alternatives are indeed a bit of a mouthful :)<br></div><div>The universal/international term, however, seems to be "Oral and<br></div><div>Maxillofacial Surgery". This is especially true in English-speaking<br></div><div>countries, but it is also used in German (Mund-Kiefer-Gesichtschirurgie<br></div><div>literally mouth-jaw-face-surgery). One example where it does not<br></div><div>include the dental/oral part is French: "Chirurgien maxillo-faciale".<br></div><div><br></div><div>"Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery" is also one of the 14 specialities<br></div><div>defined by the American College of Surgeons. NB: there also exists a<br></div><div>Plastic and Maxillofacial Surgery but that's covered by plastic_surgery.<br></div><div>https://www.facs.org/education/resources/medical-students/faq/specialties/<br></div><div>And it is the term used in the Healthcare Provider Taxonomy that I<br></div><div>presume is used for accounting of medical services in the USA.<br></div><div>http://www.hipaaspace.com/medical_billing/coding/healthcare.provider.taxonomy.code.set/204E00000X<br></div><div><br></div><div>If we take a quick look at academia the outcome is a bit more mixed.<br></div><div>However, the oral part is predominantly included here too:<br></div><div>https://scholar.google.at/scholar?as_vis=1&q=Maxillofacial+Surgery&hl=en&as_sdt=1,5<br></div><div><br></div><div>So the questions seem to be:<br></div><div> - if it makes sense to differentiate between the two at all,<br></div><div> - if not then which tag should be used.<br></div><div><br></div><div>During the proposal this came up briefly in the context of simplifying<br></div><div>the values:<br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Healthcare#To_complex_specialisation_values.3F<br></div><div>It was definitely already part of the proposal:<br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=589962<br></div><div><br></div><div>I fear that this is an especially narrow topic that few "ordinary"<br></div><div>people can really contribute to. The usage numbers I reported do also<br></div><div>prove that... if a standardized tag is used only a few dozen times<br></div><div>after 10 years then something is wrong IMHO. If anybody knows some<br></div><div>doctors it certainly would make sense to ask them.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If there is no significant further input I would like to know if it is<br></div><div>OK/perfered to at least fix the spelling, i.e. to convert<br></div><div>dental_oral_maxillo_facial_surgery to dental_oral_maxillofacial_surgery<br></div><div>in the wiki and the database?<br></div><div>There are some external users though. If you search for<br></div><div>dental_oral_maxillo_facial_surgery on github you find mostly data dumps, which is not interesting, but also genuine uses for example<br></div><div> - osmand:<br></div><div> https://github.com/osmandapp/osmand-api-demo/blob/master/OsmAnd-qt-core-sample/app/src/net/osmand/osm/poi_types.xml#L2672<br></div><div> - https://healthsites.io/:<br></div><div> https://github.com/healthsites/healthsites/blob/develop/django_project/api/osm_tag_defintions.py#L109<br></div><div><br></div><div>So maybe this is whole endeavor is futile and it will be just enough<br></div><div>stupid mistake we have to live with forever? :(<br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Stefan Tauner<br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Tagging mailing list<br></div><div>Tagging@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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