<div>I agree; that's how this tag is used in France, AFAIK. If the agricultural land is covered with grass, whether for hay and pasture, landuse=meadow is used. The distinction with meadow=* is rarely used. landuse=farmland is for cultures (cereals, potatoes…) but not for grasslands.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards.<br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user protonmail_signature_block-empty"><div><br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton">Sent with <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://protonmail.com/" target="_blank">ProtonMail</a> Secure Email.</div></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_quote">
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Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com> schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2021 um 05:21:<br>
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<div><div dir="auto">Meadows (areas of mostly grass and similar herbaceous plants, cut for hay) and pastures ( areas of grass and herbs, used for grazing by animals) are both tagged as landuse=meadow everywhere that I have mapped.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It is rare to use landuse=farmland for either.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">- Joseph</div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 7:34 PM Zeke Farwell <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:ezekielf@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">ezekielf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">A couple of weeks ago a <a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DerBauer" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">new wiki editor</a> modified several pages in a way that changes the meaning of landuse=meadow and landuse=farmland.<br><div><a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"><br></a></div><div><a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">Tag:landuse meadow</a> (<a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dmeadow&type=revision&diff=2225909&oldid=2224216" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">diff</a>)<br></div><div><a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">Tag:landuse farmland</a> (<a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dfarmland&type=revision&diff=2225152&oldid=2224151" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">diff</a>)<br></div><div><a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmyard" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">Tag:landuse farmyard</a> (<a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Alanduse%3Dfarmyard&type=revision&diff=2225157&oldid=1935881" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">diff</a>)<br></div><div><a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:landuse" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">Template<span></span><span></span>:Map_Features:landuse</a> (<a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMap_Features%3Alanduse&type=revision&diff=2225907&oldid=2210904" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">diff</a>)<br></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>Previously these pages suggested that landuse=meadow is used for pastures and hay fields, landuse=farmland is used for tilled cropland, and that some mappers use landuse=farmland for all three. Some ambiguity there, but that was the gist of it. After the recent changes these pages now state that landuse=farmland should be used for tilled cropland and pastures, while landuse=meadow should only be used for grassy areas which are not regularly grazed.<br></div><div><b></b></div><div><br></div><div>Is this change in meaning appropriate or not?<br></div><div><br></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>The description for landuse=meadow was changed from this:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div>An area of meadow or pasture: land primarily vegetated by grass and other non-woody plants, mainly used for hay or grazing<br></div></blockquote><div><div>to this:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div>
<span title="This description doesn't match the data item. Please make them the same and remove any wiki markup. Data item description = “An area of meadow or pasture: land primarily vegetated by grass and other non-woody plants, mainly used for hay or grazing.”">A meadow - land primarily vegetated by grass and non-woody plants, but which is <b>not</b> regularly grazed.</span>
</div></blockquote><div> <br></div><div>The description for landuse=farmland was changed from this:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Area of farmland used mainly for tillage (annual crops)<br></blockquote></div><div>to this:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Area of land operated by a farm whether that is pastoral (livestock) or arable (tillage). To be used in conjunction with crop=* to define the crop (grass, wheat etc) grown on that land. Separate to tag landuse=farmyard</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Another section of the landuse=farmland page was change from this:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">This tag is sometimes used for tagging every agricultural area (except farmyards). However we also have separate tags for: meadows and pastures landuse=meadow, fruit orchards landuse=orchard, and vineyards landuse=vineyard, so many mappers prefer to use landuse=farmland for cropland only</blockquote></div><div>to this:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">This tag is to be used for tagging every agricultural area (except farmyards). There are also separate tags for: fruit orchards landuse=orchard, and vineyards landuse=vineyard.<br>Meadows have an often confusing separate tag landuse=meadow attributed to them. An agricultural meadow is a separate distinction under the farmland parent category where the ground cover is grass but is not regularly grazed by livestock.</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>
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