<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Warin, thanks for the feedback. <br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Warin:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I also have 'day sections' - recommended day 'sections'. I have
not bothered to map these as I think people using multiple day
routes will be looking at more than a map for more detailed
information?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>The operator has these day sections, and includes POIs on the section maps. We do want to section the routes mainly to keep the relations small and manageable, and for that we simply use the operator's breakdown. The sections are not verifiable on the road. The overall name of the path is repeated on many, though not all, symbol stickers and shields. </div><div>If the operator re-organizes the sections, we usually do not bother to follow.</div><div><br></div><div>You are right, for multiday trip planning most people create their own day sections. Mostly by exporting the main route or separate sections to gpx and manipulating the tracks in other tools. The site <a href="https://www.longdistancepaths.eu/en/" target="_blank">https://www.longdistancepaths.eu/en/</a> presents the gpx's (taken from waymarkedtrails) plus some POIs (mainly towns and cities, PT terminals and places to stay, taken from OSM using overpass) and lets the user create their own trips and sections. Sort of OSM-based Tripadvisor.</div><div>We need more end user applications like that, for hiking. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>In the example:<br></p></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>The 'main' relation and the member relation are all type=nwn ...
could not the approaches/excursion/'day sections' be
type=rwn/lwn??? That could give some hint at the differences
between them?</p></div></blockquote><div>Since the daily sections are just sections of the main route, we tag those with the same geographic scope as the main route. Alternatives,approaches and excursions are often local additions, but they are signposted with the same symbol (white over red for national and yellow over red for regional) and are seen as an integral part of the regional or national route, carrying the same name. <br>Some hiking trails have separate one-day roundtrips presented by the operator as part of the trail. Most mappers tag these as local lwn roundtrips. I thinks it's a corona related trend, you drive somewhere, do a "Pieterpad day trip" which brings you right back to your car; no PT or B&B needed. I refuse to count (and map) that as a national hike!</div><div>International trails crossing Europe, on the contrary, usually are iwn relations containing country sections which are national hiking trails of their own, so the members are nwn. Before the approval of roles, the iwn routes were more like collections than like routes. Using roles, we can now map one iwn main route with nwn sections, and nwn/rwn/lwn alternatives, approaches, excursions and connections. </div><div><br></div><div>In short, I think the mapping and tagging scheme is maybe not ideal, but good enough. Mappers do want the section ref as a separate tag, and I say that because I see this data element in the name tag everywhere where sectioning is applied. </div><div><br></div><div>As for roles, we have talked about a transfer role, which would indicate a section using a different transport method, e.g. a rail transfer or a bus transfer through a tunnel. Also a shortcut role is often suggested, which would now be roletagged as an alternative, but it's in fact often seen as a regular part of the main route. You can do the short roundtrip or the long roundtrip, no preference assigned by the operator. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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