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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.01.2022 um 13:46 schrieb
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And
in fact, we “vote on deprecating stuff”. All. The. Time.
It’s just that it’s generally part of a larger proposal that
introduces something else new at the same time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> ...</o:p></span></p>
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You shouldn't mistake humouring the tagging list and not being
bothered enough to point this out every time, with agreeing that
such decisions are in any way binding or otherwise valid, just that
they are in general so unimportant to slide under the radar (for
example the endless power something replacement and deprecations of
stuff that was just introduced).<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If
anything, I would argue that the steps listed above should
already have been taken at the time that <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/office%3Ddiplomatic"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/office%3Ddiplomatic</a>
was approved.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And
I think it would be acceptable to take these steps now even
without voting on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Though
opening this RFC as a courtesy before doing so is welcome </span></p>
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<p>As I've already been pointed out there is nothing to actually
'deprecate', the use of the tagging is just a technical glitch
with iD.<br>
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<p>Simon<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">and
I find Frederik’s attempt at smothering the discussion to be
quite misplaced.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thorsten<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Yves via Tagging
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org"><tagging@openstreetmap.org></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 January 2022 21:01<br>
<b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org"><tagging@openstreetmap.org></a>; Frederik Ramm
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:frederik@remote.org"><frederik@remote.org></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Yves <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ycai@mailbox.org"><ycai@mailbox.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -
Deprecated embassy=embassy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I do
understand that a 'request for comment' is a good way to start
a discussion. Also a 'vote' is a good way to check if
consensus exists.<br>
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I don't understand why mechanical edit is even mentioned
here?! If even a consensus is found, there's a lot to do with
data consumers and editors, and eventually mechanical edit is
maybe an option.<br>
We should let the discussion live. <br>
Regards,<br>
Yves <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le 7 janvier 2022 10:54:56 GMT+01:00,
Frederik Ramm <<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">frederik@remote.org</a>>
a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi,
we don't vote on deprecating stuff.
Even if something is deprecated in the course of some vote, we never
automatically change all the old tagging to new.
You say that embassy=embassy has "implicitly been deprecated" already
and you complain that it is still "massively used".
A vote on an explicit deprecation of embassy=embassy will not magically
make this "massive use" go away and will not be a justification for a
mass edit.
So I don't know what it is you want to achieve with this vote.
If you want to mechanically edit all embassy=embassy to embassy=yes then
this is not the right procedure; you have to start a consultation
according to the rules for mechanical edits, not a tag vote.
Bye
Frederik<o:p></o:p></pre>
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