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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jan 26, 2022, 08:59 by robin.burek@gmx.de:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Am 25.01.2022 um 15:17 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging:<br></div><blockquote><div>Relations are horrible and obnoxious to edit and maintain.<br></div><div>It gets even worse for newbies trying to map.<br></div></blockquote><div>Your opinion. There is more the problem at the software, than the<br></div><div>mapper. When the software would be able to connect objects easely, then<br></div><div>there shouldn't be a problem; e.g a preset for "amenity=fuel" have a<br></div><div>field "copressed air station" when you select this you can either set a<br></div><div>new node or select an existing object.... Why should this be so horrible<br></div><div>to edit?<br></div><div>Sorry, but something like this is a standard UI version in the 21st<br></div><div>century....<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">1) it is not easy to create such software (speaking as one of authors<br></div><div dir="auto">of OSM editors). Feel free to submit patches to iD/Vespucci/JOSM<br></div><div dir="auto">that would make editing such relations not utterly terrible, but<br></div><div dir="auto">note that it would be a massive - maybe impossible - task.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2) you covered solely creation of new objects, this is relatively easy<br></div><div dir="auto">(note that I have not mentioned relation creation in my comment).<br></div><div dir="auto">Handling editing, display, deletion are bigger challenges.<br></div><div dir="auto">And I am dubious even about your proposed interface.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">3) I am speaking about current situation - not about theoretical not<br></div><div dir="auto">existing software. That may be impossible to create.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">4) editing and maintaining such relation would be <br></div><div dir="auto">obnoxious/horrible/annoying/blocking to vast majority of people, <br></div><div dir="auto">including people that can deal with already existing complexity<br></div><div dir="auto">(situation for people scared already by existing complexity <br></div><div dir="auto">is much worse).<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is based on testing much simpler editor with a decent<br></div><div dir="auto">sample of people and teaching people how to use far simpler<br></div><div dir="auto">software<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Relations are horrible to edit and making it different ranges from<br></div><div dir="auto">tricky/complex/time-consuming to requiring horrific amount of work<br></div><div dir="auto">and being flatly impossible.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Adding more relations without a really convincing reason and<br></div><div dir="auto">doable plan to mitigate damage is a bad idea.<br></div> </body>
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