<div dir="ltr"><div>Please do not introduce another grade scale - already enough trouble with track grades.</div><div><br></div><div>Some immediate problems:<br></div><div><br></div><div>a river crossing where your body normally gets wet or you have to swim or to take a boat is not a ford.</div><div>(The wiki page key=ford shows as option ford=boat)<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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