<div dir="ltr">How about a different approach to the stepping stones...<div><br></div><div>What do you call a (usually, but not always) man-made structure that allows you to cross a waterway dry-footed? A bridge.</div><div>Is a plank thrown over a stream a bridge? Likely.</div><div>Is a log fallen over the river, now commonly used as a crossing, a bridge? Kind of.</div><div>Is a stone chucked into the river a bridge? Well... why not?</div><div><br></div><div>Hence: why not bridge=stepping_stones?</div><div>And leave ford=* for where the waterway cannot (usually) be crossed without getting your feet wet?</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 14:43, Peter Elderson <<a href="mailto:pelderson@gmail.com">pelderson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I don't see much added value in this proposal. </div><div>Boat is not applicable (not a ford), use ferry for that: established tagging.</div><div>Swimming, not a ford. </div><div>Stepping stones, I think then it's still a ford; established tagging. </div><div>Add depth, width as needed. An estimate will suffice. Dry=0 cm, soles=5 cm, ankle=10 cm, knee=0,5 m, wade=1 m. </div><div>Intermittent, tidal: there is tagging for that. </div><div>Construction key could help if you want to tag an artificial ford. </div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Peter Elderson<br></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op wo 26 jan. 2022 om 11:59 schreef Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I couldn't see anything on the wiki about river crossings grade so I started drafting a proposal<div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pedestrian_river_crossing" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pedestrian_river_crossing</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Feedback or comments or help on it is most welcome.</div><div><br></div><div># Rational</div><div><br></div><div>Particularly on hiking trails, the intersection of a highway=footway or highway=path and a waterway=* can be defined as either:<br><br>- A bridge bridge=yes which allows you to walk over the watercourse.<br>- A culvert tunnel=culvert which takes the water through a tunnel underneath the walking path.<br>- Stepping stones ford=stepping_stones which allow you to walk through the watercourse without usually getting wet (unless the water level is higher than the stepping stones, this tag doesn't imply you'll always be able to get across)<br>- A generic stream/river crossing ford=yes where your path passes through the watercourse.<br>In the last case of ford=yes it can be helpful to describe the usual condition of that stream/river crossing to help give consumers an idea of what they can generally expect.<br><br>Mindful that conditions can change depending on upstream rainfall, or it could vary seasonally, but for places where it's usually consistent, this proposal proposes tagging it.</div><div><br></div><div># Proposed Tagging</div><div><br></div><div>0. creek/stream crossing where generally the creekbed is dry and you won't get wet.<br>1: creek/stream crossing where generally the water level is so low that you won't have water ingress in your shoes<br>2: creek/stream crossing where your body will stay dry but you'll want to take your shoes off if you prefer to keep them dry<br>3: river crossing where your body will get wet, may have a rope to help you cross, but you can wade through the water and won't usually need to swim<br>4: river crossing where you'll need to swim across<br><br></div></div>
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