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<div>I know there are other communication channels: Slack, you
mentioned Telegraph, I've seen mention of Discord & also
Discourse (which is apparently going to become the official
channel?) & which was going to be live "next week" - in
October last year ...</div>
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<p>As I understand it, the Discourse rollout was waiting some issues
to be resolved, which may have happened last week:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://blog.discourse.org/2022/01/discourse-2-8-released">https://blog.discourse.org/2022/01/discourse-2-8-released</a> (I
presume there's now a pile of integration work to do).</p>
<p>There are a few Slack instances - see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_centric_Slack_workspaces">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_centric_Slack_workspaces</a>
. I'm only really familiar with the OSM US one. Some
international stuff is talked about there, and there's also
USA-local stuff too (like a feed of new mappers in USA and
Canada).</p>
<p>Similarly, there are lots of Telegram groups.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_centric_Telegram_accounts">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_centric_Telegram_accounts</a>
has some but others are unlisted there to try and dodge the
spambots. <br>
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<p>Discord is similar - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Discord">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Discord</a>
has a list. I'm only familiar with the "OpenStreetMap World"
server; there are lots more.</p>
<p>There's also <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://forum.openstreetmap.org/">https://forum.openstreetmap.org/</a> ,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://forum.openstreetmap.fr/">https://forum.openstreetmap.fr/</a> etc. (some language communities do
most of their talking there), IRC (still not dead yet) and various
Facebook etc. groups.</p>
<p>Some channels are bridged, so (if I remember correctly) anything
said on the Swedish IRC channel #osm.se also pops up on Telegram
@osmSE . Many places are bridged to Matrix so that clients such
as Element can be used across a wide range of forums.<br>
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<div>Do you have any idea of their usage? Is the Tagging list,
despite its lack of use, still actually the best option for
reaching the most people?</div>
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<p>There are definitely quite a few tagging discussions on
"OpenStreetMap World" Discord and OSM US' Slack, and on some of
the other mailing lists that I'm familiar with (talk-au and
talk-gb for example). Also - at the risk of stating the bleeding
obvious - most OSM mappers don't speak or write English as a first
language, so most OSM discussion is in other languages. How to
bring everyone into the conversation regardless of their native
language is a real challenge. However - although I probably see
more intra-OSM conversations than many people, it's still a tiny
proportion of what's out there. For example, Brazil alone has a
couple of dozen Telegram channels - I can't say how much tagging
chat takes place on any of those!</p>
<p>There's a whole other discussion to be had about whether it's a
good idea to have key OSM discussions on a channel that isn't
under OSM's (or an OSM chapter's) control. If one of the
commercial chat providers goes bankrupt and there is a "Total
Inability To Support Usual Performance" then we've basically lost
that history, which wouldn't happen if it was on an OSMF server.<br>
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<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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