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<div>FR:site_classé is also a quite bad idea, tags should be in English unless absolutely impossible.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Stronger protection for historic monuments in France than elsewhere is not a good<br></div><div dir="auto">reason to invent a new tag name.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">motorways also differ between countries in many aspects, but we do not have <br></div><div dir="auto">PL:autostrada and FR:autoroute as destination:symbol values.<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">> Musée de France<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If I understand right the autotranslation of<br></div><div dir="auto"> <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus%C3%A9e_de_France">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus%C3%A9e_de_France</a><br></div><div>then it is museum, right? Are there also separate destination signs for lesser museums?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(and if there are some subtypes then I would use destination:symbol with museum <br></div><div dir="auto">as value and destination:symbol:detailed for extra classification)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Having 77237373737 super-specific values (like PL:szlak_architektury_drewnianej or<br></div><div dir="auto">royal_castle_in_Kraków-Częstochowa_Upland or <br></div><div dir="auto">motorway_symbol_but_with_corner_damaged or motorway_symbol_2000s_sign_model<br></div><div dir="auto">based on ones that I have seen recently)<br></div><div dir="auto">would just ensure that this data would be impossible to actually use.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>Feb 21, 2022, 07:05 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><div>But the meaning is often country-specific: « site inscrit/site classé », for instance, are a french classification of monuments which gives specific, increasingly stronger protection for the monument and its surroundings. And what about « Musée de France »?<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Yes, using such an ID would be a bit cryptic, but given the issues I explained in my first email, I see no better solution. Or would simply FR:site_classé do the thing?<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Regards.<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;" class=""><div class=""><div><br></div></div><div class="">Sent with <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://protonmail.com/" target="_blank">ProtonMail</a> Secure Email.<br></div></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div class=""><div>------- Original Message -------<br></div><div> Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org> schrieb am Montag, 21. Februar 2022 um 05:07:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="" type="cite"><div>destination:symbol with value ID16a suffers from being some weird code<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">Note currently used ones: <a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/destination%3Asymbol#values" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/destination%3Asymbol#values</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is it really impossible to use something like historic_monument ?<br></div><div dir="auto">Or "historic" which is already in use?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Many countries have some symbol for historic monument, there is really<br></div><div dir="auto">no need to have separate value for symbol in each country or region.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Feb 20, 2022, 14:59 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;" class="tutanota_quote"><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Hello, there.<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">I mapped many destination signs, with symbols and all, but I occasionally encounter country-specific symbols (many examples here: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id%C3%A9ogramme_routier_en_France">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id%C3%A9ogramme_routier_en_France</a>). I could of course create new destination:symbol=* values for such symbols, but many of them are country specific, such as the ID15/ID16 series, and creating undocumented, unilateral values disturbs me; I know that I can act so, according to the "Any tag you like principle", but I'm reluctant to do so, because I feel that undocumented/unilateral values are much less susceptible to be used/rendered, and what would be the point of using values for them to be useless?<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Besides, given the descriptions of these symbols, giving them an unambiguous destination:symbol=* value would likely produce rather long values; should a destination:symbol=* key contain several semicolon-separated such values, I'm afraid to quickly reach the 255 characters limit for an OSM tag value. In such cases, is it acceptable to simply use the ref of the symbol within a country-specific namespace?<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">For instance, mapping the symbol visible on the signs of the right-turning road (<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=261676592312309">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=261676592312309</a>) would give the following: destination:symbol=;;;FR:ID16a<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Would this solution be acceptable/advisable? In this case, do I need to fill a Wiki proposal, or is a link to this thread acceptable to promote this possibility on the destination:symbol wiki page?<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Awaiting your answers,<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Regards.<br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;" class=""><div class=""><div><br></div></div><div class="">Sent with <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://protonmail.com/" target="_blank">ProtonMail</a> Secure Email.<br></div></div></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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