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<span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Possible use cases also involve UN entities willing to use OSM data for their map production and willing to stay consistent with UN naming. In this case,
OSM would be a great facilitator to share this information among UN entities, considering all the disclaimers above.</span></div>
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The UN has a specific working group related to geographical names<span> </span><a href="https://unstats.un.org/unsd/ungegn" style="margin:0px">https://unstats.un.org/unsd/ungegn</a>, in which location names get decided after approval of Member States. This
mainly covers the 6 UN official languages (Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish) and are used by the UN as commonly agreed, unbiased names.
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We recently received a note verbale from the Permanent Mission of Ukraine to the United Nations about the mispelling of some names we were taking from OSM. Citing some examples:<br>
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<li><span> The French spelling of Kyiv (name:fr in OSM) should be Kyïv according to the note (which could be name:fr-UN=<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">Kyïv , possibly different from common
usage for a francophone user)</span><br>
</span></li><li style=""><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">The English spelling of Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant (name:en in OSM) should be Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant according to the note (which
could be name:en-UN=<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant)</span></span></span></li></ul>
<div>I believe these spellings may be not coinciding with the commonly used ones in some languages (not to mention dialects and regional differences), but I wouldn't feel comfortable in changing the main name:en=* because the UN authoritative one doesn't coincide.<br>
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The reason of having those in OSM would be to give other UN entities the possibility to easily select and prioritize UN authoritative naming when accessing OSM data.<br>
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Let me know if I can help further,<br>
Michael, <a href="https://mappers.un.org/" title="https://mappers.un.org/">UN Mappers</a> </div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> Marc_marc <marc_marc@mailo.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tagging@openstreetmap.org <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] International and UN names</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Hello,<br>
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Le 15.03.22 à 11:43, Minh Nguyen a écrit :<br>
> Vào lúc 02:09 2022-03-15, Jeroen Hoek đã viết:<br>
>> Are there any cases where the UN names are missing from the name, <br>
>> int_name, alt_name, official_name tags and their language specific <br>
>> variants (e.g., name:en)?<br>
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> int_name=* is frequently used for multiple purposes:<br>
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> * A UN/ISO 3166-1 country name in English, especially where it differs <br>
> from the common English name, as in "Czechia" or "Viet Nam". This isn't <br>
> limited to countries; there are ISO names for subnational divisions too.<br>
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imho it's wrong. like name, int_name isn't "name in English"<br>
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> * The English name of a multinational brand, such as Starbucks or <br>
> 7-Eleven. name:en would be more correct for this purpose.<br>
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In a french-speaking area, a Starbucks shop is called Starbucks<br>
it isn't a int_name nor a name either, it's a brand=Starbucks<br>
int_name=Starbucks is a tagging mistake<br>
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> * For world-famous cities and landmarks, an internationally recognizable <br>
> name for the feature in the same language as name, by analogy with <br>
> nat_name, reg_name, and loc_name.<br>
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unneeded but not wrong<br>
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> UN/ISO names would be useful for data consumers that want to avoid the <br>
> appearance of bias in a disputed area. (Whoever has de facto, <br>
> on-the-ground control in a dispute usually isn't a neutral party.)<br>
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the language used in the name tag is not about the language of the <br>
invader. if a Chinese took over the eiffel tower, it would still be <br>
name=Tour Effeil until the language of the invader is sufficiently <br>
imposed to consider that the name has changed<br>
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the 2 worries I see with name:UN is first that it breaks the logics of <br>
the tag (name:language) and then it's that it's unlimited. after UN,<br>
why not the name according to the arab league ? the orthodox church ?<br>
the sect of the sun god ?<br>
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do you have an example where name:UN:xx differs from name:xx (apart from <br>
tag errors of course) ?<br>
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Regards,<br>
Marc<br>
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