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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mar 16, 2022, 00:25 by frederik@remote.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>On 3/15/22 21:35, Minh Nguyen wrote:<br></div><blockquote>There's some redundancy, but redundant name tags are actually preferred in some situations. [3]<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/2288660#Repeating_name_with_language_specific_tag <br></div><div>To be honest I strongly disagree with the sentiment on that page, "In cases where multiple languages are tagged for a name, the local-language name tag should be duplicated with the language-specific sub-key." - I can't believe that represents a consensus.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">What you think about situation described by Brian (and which I and at least one<br></div><div dir="auto">other person actually encountered)?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There are few options:<br></div><div dir="auto">- allow such mapping<br></div><div dir="auto">- this use case is not supported by OSM data and you should use other data source,<br></div><div dir="auto">use Wikidata or something else for displaying names<br></div><div dir="auto">- you must be able to guess name language based on location and other hints<br></div><div dir="auto">note that this will work poorly in any area which may names in multiple language<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Personally I would change "should" to "can"/"may be a good idea to"/"can be useful"<br></div><div dir="auto">rather than mandating repeat - which I believe would represent consensus.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>One of the reasonings given is that "This tagging is important because it ensures that data consumers don't need to infer the local language." which is silly - data consumers never have to infer the local language because the name that is given in the "name" tag *is* name in the local language.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">It was supposed to go in other direction: data consumers don't need to guess which<br></div><div dir="auto">local language is being used for a given object - as the can use name:xx tags directly.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">With name not repeated in any name:xx tag and having some name:xx tags there is<br></div><div dir="auto">no reliable way to obtain name of language tagged in name tag<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Do you have an idea how to better formulate it?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--------------<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">BTW<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information_for_name">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information_for_name</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information</a><br></div><div dir="auto">are related ideas.<br></div> </body>
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