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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mar 23, 2022, 10:46 by <a href="mailto:annekadistel@web.de">annekadistel@web.de</a>:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><p><br></p><div class="">On 22/03/2022 15:46, Mateusz Konieczny
via Tagging wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>"subject:wikidata=Q509424" applied "for all sheela-na-gigs"
is a bad idea,<br></div><div dir="auto">pity that this remained in a proposal.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is <br></div><div dir="auto">(a) complete duplicate of <span class="" style="font-family:menlo,consolas,"courier
new",monospace"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a title="" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:artwork_subject" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">artwork_subject</a></bdi>=<a title="Tag:artwork subject=sheela-na-gig (page does not
exist)" class="" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:artwork_subject%3Dsheela-na-gig&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><bdi>sheela-na-gig</bdi></a></span> that is being proposed<br></div></blockquote><div>We're clearly thinking of different applications for the wikidata
links.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">About which application of the subject:wikidata you are thinking?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I use it for marking subject of artwork etc.<br></div><div dir="auto">And sheela-na-gig is not subject of typical sheela-na-gig, in the same way as<br></div><div dir="auto">linking <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mural">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mural</a> or<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_smile" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_smile</a> or <br></div><div dir="auto"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skull_symbolism">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skull_symbolism</a><br></div><div dir="auto">would not be fitting for murals, sculpture with archaic smile or every <br></div><div dir="auto">symbolic skull.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(would be fine for artworks depicting murals and some meta artwork<br></div><div dir="auto">ABOUT archaic smile or human skull symbolism)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In the same way <br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="auto">(b) incorrect as sheela-na-gig is a type of
sculpture, not a subject of this artwork <br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="auto">(though in theory some case like this may be
created)<br></div></blockquote><div>They are mostly artwork_type=relief actually (if they's not street
art) and it IS the subject of the artwork, if following the logic of
"artwork_type" (relief, sculpture, mural etc) on the wiki.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Would you link <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2223449">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2223449</a> with subject:wikidata on<br></div><div dir="auto">artwork just because it contains skull which is symbolically used?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">At least for me this is the same.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sorry if I am missing something, I am basing all my knowledge on reading<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheela_na_gig" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheela_na_gig</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But it seems that it is style of carvings<br></div><div dir="auto">("figurative carvings of naked women displaying an exaggerated vulva"),<br></div><div dir="auto">rather than a depiction of some legendary/mythical/real entity.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="auto">I don't know of a single case where they depict a specific person
(at least in Ireland and the UK). At least not one that has been
identified. And there are no objects to be depicted. It's like
saying statues of the Virgin Mary could depict a specific person/
object.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">linking <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_mother_of_Jesus">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_mother_of_Jesus</a> on wooden carving <br></div><div dir="auto">of Virgin Mary as subject seems fine, but linking <br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_carving">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_carving</a> as subject on a wooden sculpture <br></div><div dir="auto">of something seems not fine to me (unless it is sculpture with wood carving as a subject).<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheela_na_gig">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheela_na_gig</a> discusses that they could represent something,<br></div><div dir="auto">but article itself being linked is not about this hypothetical fertility or mother goddess but<br></div><div dir="auto">about style of carvings.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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