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<div>L1b is missing "and cycling on the left <br></div><div dir="auto">(on <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Cycle_lanes_both_right.svg">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Cycle_lanes_both_right.svg</a> image) <br></div><div dir="auto">carriageway lane is forbidden, while cycling on the right carriageway lane is not"<br></div><div dir="auto">info.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It matters in case where lane is not automatically utterly banning cycling on carriageway.<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">bicycle=use_sidepath is for something different AND mapping bicycle lane as separate<br></div><div dir="auto">way is wrong.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>Apr 11, 2022, 00:50 by sebastian.guertler@gmx.de:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><p>It seems to me that you describe case L1b in the wiki: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Cycle_lanes_in_bidirectional_motor_car_roads" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Cycle_lanes_in_bidirectional_motor_car_roads</a><br></p><p>I think there is no reason to use another tagging as described
there, (cycleway:right=lane cycleway:right:oneway=no, without the
"bicycle:oneway=yes").<br></p><p>bicycle:oneway=yes tells a router that this way is only viable
for bicycles in the direction of that way, but on the main
carriageway they are completely banned, and finally the tag
cycleway:right:oneway=no is conflicting.<br></p><p>It isn't clear to me, what you would want to say with the
"bicycle:oneway=yes". Do you mean each single lane? But this isn't
even for the other vehicles the use of the tag. For cars it is the
normal situation that if there are two lanes and it isn't oneway,
that you use each lane just in one direction, exceptions only in
overtaking.<br></p><p>To state that the use of the tracks is compulsory you could at
the moment use bicycle=use_sidepath and give the track additional
ways with highway=cycleway. (See <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath</a>).<br></p><p>Greetings, Sebastian<br></p><div class="">Am 10.04.22 um 17:25 schrieb Mateusz
Konieczny via Tagging:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>both cases may occur (and would be tagged with an independent
property)<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Apr 10, 2022, 17:17 by <a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">voschix@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;" class="tutanota_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div>Is the use of the cycle lane mandatory for bicycles in
both directions? Or can cyclist also ride in the allowed
direction on the carriageway?<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 at 16:44, Mateusz
Konieczny via Tagging <<a class="" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">There could be a case where:<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">- one side of road has traffic lane where
cars can travel but bicycles are banned<br></div><div dir="auto">- another side of road has cycleway lanes
allowing travel in both directions<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It can be mapped as<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">highway=*<br></div><div dir="auto">cycleway:right=lane<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">but it is not representing full info and
is missing substantial part of the situation.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Can it be mapped as<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">highway=*<br></div><div dir="auto">cycleway:right=lane<br></div><div dir="auto">cycleway:right:oneway=no<br></div><div dir="auto">bicycle:oneway=yes<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I dislike this tagging as it makes
necessary to check even more tags to answer<br></div><div dir="auto">simple "can bicycles travel in this
direction" but I have no idea how to tag it better.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is there some other way to represent this?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(it is partial repeat of <br></div><div dir="auto"><a class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-March/thread.html#64148" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-March/thread.html#64148</a><br></div><div dir="auto">but it was not answered clearly.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am asking as I just discovered that need
to decide on that to implement<br></div><div dir="auto"><a class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3544" target="_blank">https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/3544</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It appears to be not described at <a class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway</a><br></div><div dir="auto">or <a class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle</a><br></div><div dir="auto">)<br></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Tagging mailing list<br></div><div><a class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div><a class="" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><pre class="" wrap="">_______________________________________________
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