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<div>From inspecting email headers: it has<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">From: Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This header is displayed both in Claws Mail, Gmail and tutanota.com<br></div><div dir="auto">email clients.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It seems to me that your email client is for some reason failing to<br></div><div dir="auto">display this header.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If my messages are actually broken, let me know but as far as I see<br></div><div dir="auto">everything is fine on my side.<br></div><div><br></div><div>May 6, 2022, 21:05 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Mateusz, my current email client seems to have trouble to identify you has an email sender, but instead use 'tagging@openstreetmap.org'.<br></div><div>It doesn't help to follow threads. Maybe it's my client issue or something else, nevertheless it's a good idea to sign messages, we're not in a chat (or are we?).<br></div><div>Yves<br></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div>On 6 May 2022 20:31:18 CEST, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class=""><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>May 6, 2022, 17:16 by tod@fitchfamily.org:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;" class="tutanota_quote"><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 6, 2022, at 2:45 AM, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" class="">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">That is wrong order, OpenStreetMap Carto should not be used as a hammer to<span class=""> </span><br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">force editors to adapt tagging.<br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">For example landcover=trees tagging was soundly rejected by JOSM and iD developers<br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2548" class="">https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2548</a><br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/josm/trunk/data/validator/ignoretags.cfg?rev=11949" class="">https://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/josm/trunk/data/validator/ignoretags.cfg?rev=11949</a><br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">And also OSM Carto developers<br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2548" class="">https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2548</a><br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">(yes, including me)<br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Note also that proposal was never brought to a vote by its authors<br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">since it was created in 2010, presumably because it does not have a<span class=""> </span><br></div><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">clear support.<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div>A tag that has been used over 300k times despite not being approved by people on this mail list, supported as presets by the editors or the OSM Carto developers definitely has some support among the mapping community at large. Just not a handful of developers supporting the most commonly used tools of the few active individuals on this email list.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">About 96k of landcover=trees was added in a single import/organized edit.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And anyway, tags with the same meaning I used significantly more often<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=forest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=forest</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/natural=wood" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/natural=wood</a><br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;" class="tutanota_quote"><div><br></div><div>For what it is worth, in my map generation I actually render landcover=* only. If the landcover tag is missing I make assumptions about the land cover based landuse and/or natural.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">so you render also landuse=* and natural=*<br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;" class="tutanota_quote"><div>While at odds with several members of this email list, it makes perfect sense to me to map what is seen with as few implicit assumptions about why the feature is there. I see trees, great the area is covered with trees. Are they there naturally or because of direct human intervention?<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">note that landuse=forest and natural=wood are de facto duplicates (some<br></div><div dir="auto">people make distinctions between the, but not in a consistent way)<br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;" class="tutanota_quote"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don’t care why. But I do want to render a map that shows there are trees there.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">landuse=forest and natural=wood have this meaning<br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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