<div dir="auto">Where there is a hazard from predators I would like to suggest the following tag<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">diet:humans=yes</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 9 May 2022, 12:10 martianfreeloader, <<a href="mailto:martianfreeloader@posteo.net">martianfreeloader@posteo.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't think these kinds of considerations should be a reason *not* to <br>
map/tag something on OSM.<br>
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Otherwise, the same reasoning could be used against mapping a <br>
notoriously dangerous road, a demanding hiking path or a climbing crag.<br>
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OSM should only provide information, not try to influence what people do <br>
with that information. Otherwise, there would be endless discussions <br>
about whether or not to map speed cameras, military areas, etc.<br>
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Of course, security-relevant information can be mapped. If we think <br>
relevant information is missing (e. g. danger from crocodiles), then I <br>
think, the better way to go is to add this information, rather than <br>
removing other relevant information.<br>
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On 09/05/2022 10:18, Warin wrote:<br>
> For some river crossings in Australia OSM would then have the value <br>
> 'swim' on crocodile infested rivers.. that is NOT a good idea! And yes <br>
> people have died at some of these crossings by crocodile.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I see no reason not to simply state a water depth.. even inaccurate it <br>
> will give a better idea than 'swim', 'wellies' etc.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> for tidal ..example depth@high_tide=x, depth@low_tide=y<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 27/1/22 09:44, Timothy Noname wrote:<br>
>> Last summer I visited Lopwell dam which is a River ford at low tide <br>
>> and about 6ft deep at high tide.<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/NYWvnVfeqzSMbhbN8" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://maps.app.goo.gl/NYWvnVfeqzSMbhbN8</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> There is also another ford further down stream which is virtually <br>
>> impassable for anything but a proper 4x4 or tractor,<br>
>> <a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/TACQSMDdw9dUR18GA" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://maps.app.goo.gl/TACQSMDdw9dUR18GA</a><br>
>> (interesting to watch on YouTube though.)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> If I were to tag Lopwell dam ford I would like to give it a max value <br>
>> of swim and a minimum value of wellies. The foot bridge by its side <br>
>> is broken but once it's repaired would have a min value of dry and a <br>
>> max value of swim or wade. This would provide useful information to <br>
>> anyone planning a journey.<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, 20:53 ael via Tagging, <br>
>> <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 06:30:37PM +0000, Philip Barnes wrote:<br>
>> > On Wed, 2022-01-26 at 18:13 +0000, Timothy Noname wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Tidal is certainly an unusual thing for a ford, I have seen one<br>
>> or two<br>
>> > but most roads affected tides are causways and the general rul<br>
>> is you<br>
>> > do not travel on them if they are covered with water. Tide<br>
>> implies salt<br>
>> > and I would certainly not drive one no matter how shallow the<br>
>> water is.<br>
>><br>
>> Well, I know of one dubious case in Cornwall:<br>
>> <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/270055625" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/270055625</a><br>
>> is an historic ford crossing the West Looe River which is just about<br>
>> tidal at that point. It was incorrectly mapped as a bridge<br>
>> some years ago: I have no idea how that could be so wrong, but then<br>
>> I have surveyed near there several times, and presumably the "bridge"<br>
>> was from armchair mapping.<br>
>><br>
>> I can just about imagine a local farmer crossing in a large tractor<br>
>> when the water is very low, but I have seen no sign that there is any<br>
>> modern use. Streetview seems to have got a bit of the track leading<br>
>> there: <a href="https://goo.gl/maps/9JeA6d6WN7Mbn72V6" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/maps/9JeA6d6WN7Mbn72V6</a><br>
>><br>
>> Anyway, there can be genuine fords which are tidal, even if this<br>
>> particular example is disused.<br>
>><br>
>> ael<br>
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