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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/5/22 21:40, Timothy Noname wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Where there is a hazard from predators I would
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<p>Some don't eat humans.. they just defend themselves. e.g. snakes,
hippos, elephants ... <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 9 May 2022, 12:10
martianfreeloader, <<a
href="mailto:martianfreeloader@posteo.net"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">martianfreeloader@posteo.net</a>>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't
think these kinds of considerations should be a reason *not*
to <br>
map/tag something on OSM.<br>
<br>
Otherwise, the same reasoning could be used against mapping a
<br>
notoriously dangerous road, a demanding hiking path or a
climbing crag.<br>
<br>
OSM should only provide information, not try to influence what
people do <br>
with that information. Otherwise, there would be endless
discussions <br>
about whether or not to map speed cameras, military areas,
etc.<br>
<br>
Of course, security-relevant information can be mapped. If we
think <br>
relevant information is missing (e. g. danger from
crocodiles), then I <br>
think, the better way to go is to add this information, rather
than <br>
removing other relevant information.<br>
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On 09/05/2022 10:18, Warin wrote:<br>
> For some river crossings in Australia OSM would then have
the value <br>
> 'swim' on crocodile infested rivers.. that is NOT a good
idea! And yes <br>
> people have died at some of these crossings by crocodile.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I see no reason not to simply state a water depth.. even
inaccurate it <br>
> will give a better idea than 'swim', 'wellies' etc.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> for tidal ..example depth@high_tide=x, depth@low_tide=y<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 27/1/22 09:44, Timothy Noname wrote:<br>
>> Last summer I visited Lopwell dam which is a River
ford at low tide <br>
>> and about 6ft deep at high tide.<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/NYWvnVfeqzSMbhbN8"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://maps.app.goo.gl/NYWvnVfeqzSMbhbN8</a><br>
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>> There is also another ford further down stream which
is virtually <br>
>> impassable for anything but a proper 4x4 or tractor,<br>
>> <a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/TACQSMDdw9dUR18GA"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://maps.app.goo.gl/TACQSMDdw9dUR18GA</a><br>
>> (interesting to watch on YouTube though.)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> If I were to tag Lopwell dam ford I would like to
give it a max value <br>
>> of swim and a minimum value of wellies. The foot
bridge by its side <br>
>> is broken but once it's repaired would have a min
value of dry and a <br>
>> max value of swim or wade. This would provide useful
information to <br>
>> anyone planning a journey.<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, 20:53 ael via Tagging, <br>
>> <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 06:30:37PM +0000, Philip
Barnes wrote:<br>
>> > On Wed, 2022-01-26 at 18:13 +0000, Timothy
Noname wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Tidal is certainly an unusual thing for a
ford, I have seen one<br>
>> or two<br>
>> > but most roads affected tides are causways
and the general rul<br>
>> is you<br>
>> > do not travel on them if they are covered
with water. Tide<br>
>> implies salt<br>
>> > and I would certainly not drive one no
matter how shallow the<br>
>> water is.<br>
>><br>
>> Well, I know of one dubious case in Cornwall:<br>
>> <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/270055625"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/270055625</a><br>
>> is an historic ford crossing the West Looe River
which is just about<br>
>> tidal at that point. It was incorrectly mapped as
a bridge<br>
>> some years ago: I have no idea how that could be
so wrong, but then<br>
>> I have surveyed near there several times, and
presumably the "bridge"<br>
>> was from armchair mapping.<br>
>><br>
>> I can just about imagine a local farmer crossing
in a large tractor<br>
>> when the water is very low, but I have seen no
sign that there is any<br>
>> modern use. Streetview seems to have got a bit of
the track leading<br>
>> there: <a
href="https://goo.gl/maps/9JeA6d6WN7Mbn72V6" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://goo.gl/maps/9JeA6d6WN7Mbn72V6</a><br>
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>> Anyway, there can be genuine fords which are
tidal, even if this<br>
>> particular example is disused.<br>
>><br>
>> ael<br>
>><br>
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