<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">In my experience, access is one of the most misunderstood tagging schemes in OSM. Many mappers do not understand that foot/bicycle/horse/dog/etc=yes is supposed to only specify that the noted mode is legally allowed. *=yes is instead commonly used to indicate some combination of usability, intent, and allowed access for the denoted mode.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If this distinction between legal access and suitability/intent is important, I'd suggest we work to establish a new, clearer tagging scheme. For example legal access could be:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">access:bicycle=yes</div><div dir="auto">access:dog=yes</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And intent/suitability could be:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">for:bicycle=yes</div><div dir="auto">for:dog=yes</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">On the other hand if the distinction isn't actually that important we could just accept and document the fact that access tagging is already used to indicate a mix of usability, intent, and permissibility.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--</div><div dir="auto">Zeke</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 6, 2022, 10:03 AM Martin Koppenhoefer <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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> On 6 Jul 2022, at 15:43, Marc_marc <<a href="mailto:marc_marc@mailo.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">marc_marc@mailo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I regularly see horse=no's on paths without any prohibition signs<br>
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horse, more clearly than “dog”, is defined as a legal access tag for riders, if there isn’t a prohibitive sign it could still be forbidden implicitly - or the tag is wrong (if it is not forbidden but someone thought it was unsuitable)<br>
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Cheers Martin <br>
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