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<p>I think we have a misunderstanding here: There can be no "option
4 - keep things unchanged" because the described problem has
simply not been solved or documented yet. Street-side parking
areas exist since one and a half years only and the tagging of
parking restrictions was not part of the proposal. Therefore, I
can't mark any variant that is in use now. As far as I can see,
among the few mappers who are engaged in this topic, both variants
described for areas are in use. I'm using variant 1 myself. A few
days ago I saw a table from another mapper who described variant 2
(via OSM DE Telegram Channel). Variant 3 (complete renewal of the
parking lane scheme) would have a very serious impact, especially
since StreetComplete released the new parking overlay yesterday (I
don't have to tell you that :) PTv2 sends its regards...<br>
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But to get a documented standard I compared the different options
and asking for opinions to follow up on one of the three options.
The tagging details can then be discussed there.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 03.09.22 um 13:42 schrieb Mateusz
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Sep 2, 2022, 15:31 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:supaplex@riseup.net">supaplex@riseup.net</a>:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">1. We use the established tags for parking lots also on street-side parking areas (access=*, fee=*, maxstay=*... and their conditional restrictions).
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impossible, as road access and street-side parking areas may have different
access, fee and maxstay status
prefixing would be needed, and at this point this tags are not so established
anymore
in case that I am confused: how in variant 1 you would tag road usable by anyone
with "residents only" parking lane?
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking_conditions_on_separately_mapped_parking_areas">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking_conditions_on_separately_mapped_parking_areas</a>
seems to not have variant 1 linear examples
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">2. We adopt the parking:condition=*-scheme for street-side parking areas
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I am not too happy about this, that brings extra complexity where it is not
needed
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">3. We fundamentally resolve this conflict by adopting the common OSM access scheme to the parking:lane/condition scheme.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I will read it and will comment if I will have anything useful
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I have illustrated these variants and some of their advantages and disadvantages: > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking_conditions_on_separately_mapped_parking_areas">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking_conditions_on_separately_mapped_parking_areas</a>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">area features would benefit from marking which variant is used now
(second column, right?) and maybe moving it to the first column
how amenity=parking access=private fee=no would be tagged in a schema 2?
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...and wonder which variant would have the most support in the community or what you think about it in general. Ideally, we will gain an opinion on which of these variants should be continued/proposed/documented.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">there is also option (4) - keep things unchanged
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