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<div>Still, splitting into 60 segments with</div><div>inaccuracy greater than their length</div><div>seems to not be a good idea.</div><div><br></div><div>26 wrz 2022, 07:09 od ycai@mailbox.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>You can't really micromap until you micromap for real ;-)<br></div><div>More seriously, there may be no need to split ways down to the *exact* meter to give the router a sense of the way profile with incline=*.<br></div><div>Yves <br></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div>Le 26 septembre 2022 02:21:24 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class=""><div dir="auto">tagging incline direction on ways with mtb:scale:uphill is useful<br></div><div>as otherwise you need high-quality elevation model<br></div><div dir="auto">to do routing, and in some cases it may be unavailable at all in sufficient detail<br></div><p dir="auto"><br></p><div>I wanted to systematically tag mtb scale info in some places to improve routing<br></div><div>for bicycle trekking.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>Some people (like myself) are NOT interested at all in MTB routes but mtb:scale=1<br></div><div dir="auto">(or just mtb:scale=0) is still fine for them.<br></div><p><br></p><p dir="auto"><br></p><div>So mtb:scale=1 mtb:scale:uphill=3 is fine downhill but not uphill for such people,<br></div><div>but it is hard to check in which way given path goes uphill<br></div><p><br></p><p dir="auto">This is also recommended by wiki:<br></p><div dir="auto"><a target="_blank" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:mtb:scale&uselang=en#mtb:scale:uphill=0-5" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:mtb:scale&uselang=en#mtb:scale:uphill=0-5</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So I wanted to systematically tag missing incline tags, as even without exact<br></div><div dir="auto">value it is already valuable info for routing.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But what can be done in cases where there is no real incline but <br></div><div dir="auto">path goes through series of up and down hops?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In many cases it is deliberately engineered (legally or not)<br></div><div dir="auto">and looks often like <a href="https://www.moredirt.com/photo/91766" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.moredirt.com/photo/91766</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.zip06.com/local-news/20220622/rockland-preserve-pump-track-is-officially-a-hit/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.zip06.com/local-news/20220622/rockland-preserve-pump-track-is-officially-a-hit/</a> <br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.bikehinton.com/hinton-bike-park" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bikehinton.com/hinton-bike-park</a><br></div><div dir="auto">-------------<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Would it be fine to tag incline=up_and_down in such case?<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/incline=up_and_down" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/incline=up_and_down</a><br></div><div dir="auto">has some minimal use already.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Or maybe incline:variable=yes?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Splitting such way into incline=up / incline=down segments<br></div><div dir="auto">is too much for me and I was splitting footway into 20m<br></div><div dir="auto">segments to mark changing surface/lit status.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-------------<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And why I want to tag some incline value? Because I want to do it<br></div><div dir="auto">systematically for all such ways.<br></div><div dir="auto">See <a href="https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/pull/4385" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/pull/4385</a><br></div><div dir="auto">for the context (I want to also add it to StreetComplete if it will<br></div><div dir="auto">be accepted there).<br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote> </body>
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