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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/10/22 22:33, Peter Elderson
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<div dir="ltr">Just a remark: I think a mainly decorative object
is not an amenity. An amenity may be near it, or attached to it,
but that still does not make the object an amenity. <br>
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<p>Some view works of art as amenities. <br>
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<p>A road is an amenity .. yet they are not tagged amenity in OSM. <br>
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<p>A building is an amenity. <br>
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<p>I view most values of man_made as amenities... </p>
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<p>I think of OSM key 'amenity' as the miscellaneous folder .. a
catch all. If there is a less general key then I think that other
key should be used in preference to the key 'amenity'. <br>
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<div>An object that provides water for actual use, such as a tap
or a pipe from which water permanently flows, is an amenity.
It may be decorated, or fitted to a decorative object, but
still is an amenity. The BE word fountain, I understand,
primarily means the decorative structure including the
decorative waterflow. <br>
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<p>That is one meaning of it. It can also mean the starting point of
a river/stream... and other things. <br>
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<p>Possibly some view the word 'fountain' as meaning "a source of
water'. Decorative fountains around me are not sources of water ..
using the water from a fountain could have the Police/council
Rangers called. <br>
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<div>So, to me, any tagging using amenity=fountain sounds like a
contradiction.<br>
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<p>I reach the same conclusion, but for different reasons. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op vr 14 okt. 2022 om 12:22
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12:10 Uhr schrieb Davidoskky via Tagging <<a
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This other fountain doesn't have such wall, thus it is
not decorative <br>
and it cannot be tagged as amenity=fountain (assuming we
disregard the <br>
recreational utility mentioned in the wiki).<br>
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<div>this other fountain happens to be decorated as well.
Let's ignore this for a moment, and assume it wasn't. It
could still be a decorative fountain, if it can be seen
as street decor. Setting up a fountain requires some
effort, so there will usually be a purpose, even if it
isn't necessary now as it was when it was constructed. I
would generally see amenity=fountain applicable for any
fountain that is not only a drinking fountain and that
is not set up as a watering place for animals only.<br>
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The shape and use of these two fountains looks the same
to me.<br>
Why would you tag them as different features?<br>
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<div>I wouldn't<br>
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I'm not necessarily saying they need to be tagged as
amenity=fountain, <br>
but I would expect their main tagging to be the same and
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<div>maybe, if you come up with an idea about these
secondary parameters, we can discuss them.</div>
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<div>Cheers,<br>
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<div>Martin<br>
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