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<p>> What evidence do you have that is the case? What is being
provided is energy, not power.</p>
<div>From Cambridge dictionary:</div>
<div>power - electricity, especially when considering its use or
production<br>
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<div>energy - the power from something such as electricity or oil
that can do work, such as providing light and heat<br>
</div>
<div>From Meram-Webster</div>
<div>power - a source or means of supplying energy<br>
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<div>energy - usable power (such as heat or electricity) <br>
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<p>> ...and if we mean electricity, why not use that in the tag?</p>
<div>Because the current value has been documented by someone in
2016 when it had about 100 uses or less. <br>
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<p>> A more general issue is that often utilities provide more
than one service. Xcel, which operates in parts of the US,
provides both electricity and natural gas (the latter which is
technically energy too). In a nearby city to where I live, the
city owned utility provides electricity, water, sewer, and
internet. <br>
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<p>> That's something which is not common in Europe. The only
close such case is an power company (EVN) which operates power
infrastructure, heating infrastructure and sells power in the
same area but these activities are separated in subsidiaries. Is
that the case in the US or Xcel does not have subsidiaries for
the different economic activities?<br>
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<div>> There is no subsidiary. <br>
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<div>Then using office=utility + utility=gas;power might be a good
idea. What do you think?<br>
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<p>Energy and power are used quite interchangeably and
power is the better word for it.</p>
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<div>What evidence do you have that is the case? What is
being provided is energy, not power.</div>
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<div>...and if we mean electricity, why not use that in the
tag?</div>
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<p>> A more general issue is that often
utilities provide more than one service. Xcel, which
operates in parts of the US, provides both electricity
and natural gas (the latter which is technically energy
too). In a nearby city to where I live, the city owned
utility provides electricity, water, sewer, and
internet. <br>
</p>
<p>That's something which is not common in Europe. The
only close such case is an power company (EVN) which
operates power infrastructure, heating infrastructure
and sells power in the same area but these activities
are separated in subsidiaries. Is that the case in the
US or Xcel does not have subsidiaries for the different
economic activities?<br>
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<div>There is no subsidiary. </div>
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<div>Mike</div>
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<div>On 18/11/2022 23:31, Mike Thompson wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Technically what the electric utility is
selling is energy, not power. One gets billed for
kilowatt-hours, not kilowatts. See [0]. However,
colloquially, the terms power and energy when it comes
to electric utilities are used
interchangeably, although "power company" seems to be
favored vs. "energy company" in the US where I live.
If we want to be clear, why not
office=electric_utility (if that is what we mean)?
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<div>A more general issue is that often
utilities provide more than one service. Xcel,
which operates in parts of the US, provides both
electricity and natural gas (the latter which is
technically energy too). In a nearby city to where
I live, the city owned utility provides electricity,
water, sewer, and internet. </div>
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<div>Mike<br>
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<div>[0] <a
href="https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Energy_vs_power"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Energy_vs_power</a></div>
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at 12:56 PM Dimitar <<a
href="mailto:osm.dimitar155@gmail.com"
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I’m <br>
[proposing](<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_utility_office"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
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to introduce a new tag for power utility offices
(office=power_utility) <br>
and deprecate the existing one
(office=energy_supplier). The rationale <br>
behind this idea is that energy_supplier can be
confusing to most people.<br>
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Please comment wherever you feel most comfortable:<br>
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* Here<br>
* On the wiki talk page<br>
* On the community forum<br>
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