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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/11/22 10:47, François Lacombe
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<div dir="ltr">Good evening,<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le dim. 20 nov. 2022
à 17:36, stevea <<a
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In fact, I can imagine a variety of tags that describe much
(approaching or even achieving?) all of this:<br>
office=utility<br>
utility=water;sewer;garbage<br>
utility=accepts_payment<br>
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utility=cable_tv<br>
utility=allows_equipment_exchange<br>
utility=furnishes_service_equipment<br>
utility:payment=in_person_only<br>
utility:payment=kiosk<br>
utility:payment=cash_only<br>
utility:payment=accepts_checks<br>
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Those aren’t necessarily the exact tags OSM might eventually
settle upon, but they do indicate what’s possible. Again,
it’s a pretty big universe, as “utilities” encompass more
than power / energy, and there are a vast number of ways to
“deal with customers at an office.” (There’s the office
itself, what sort of services are available, when/whether it
is staffed (it may be simply a drop-box for payment), what
sort of services and payments are exchanged…).<br>
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<div>utility=* key is already widely used and expect one
single value, in every situation.</div>
<div>Please don't introduce utility=power;gas;waste.<br>
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<div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:utility"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:utility</a></div>
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<div>I've also answered here about its usage in this proposal</div>
<div><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Power_utility_office#Use_sub-key_instead"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Power_utility_office#Use_sub-key_instead</a></div>
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<div>I'm not sure tagging offices with utility=* is really
suitable for the current definition: offices aren't involved
in production, transmission, distribution or delivery of
power, telecommunications, gas, whatever.</div>
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<p>Some offices are involved in the sale and administration of the
utility.</p>
<p>Buried utilities here were legally required to be in separate
trenches, that has changed so that one trench can be used for
multiple utilities, so it may be required for the key 'utility' to
accept multiple values. <br>
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<p>Many of the present values for the key 'utility' look to be what
is being discuses for these offices. <br>
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<p>The key 'utility' has evolved over time from only the key
'marker' to also accepting the tags 'man_made=utility_pole' and
'building=service'. Further evolution might take place. <br>
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