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<div>"or only with the significant effort of using geometric
processing<br></div><div dir="auto">(which most applications can't perform)"<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">why doing it manually would be preferable?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is it repeating mistake of adding pointless work for mappers<br></div><div dir="auto">because it "causes extra preprocessing for routing software."?<br></div><div dir="auto">And valuing time of mappers as worth nothing?<br></div><div dir="auto">(PTv2 asks mappers to do something derivable from highway=bus_stop<br></div><div dir="auto">location and roads within bus relation, massive amount of work<br></div><div dir="auto">of mappers wasted to do preprocessing manually<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=625726">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=625726</a> )<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Why <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24034881">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24034881</a><br></div><div dir="auto">needs to be preprocessed manually?<br></div><div dir="auto">The same for <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1111788729">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1111788729</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/118390194">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/118390194</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233305340">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233305340</a> <br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/119380508">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/119380508</a><br></div><div dir="auto">(all examples from the proposal)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Or is it justifiable because it is outright impossible to do reliably<br></div><div dir="auto">with automatic preprocessing?<br></div><div dir="auto">(that is the justification for<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:dual_carriageway%3Dyes">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:dual_carriageway%3Dyes</a><br></div><div dir="auto">)<br></div><div dir="auto">If yes, can you give examples where it would be beneficial<br></div><div dir="auto">and explicitly ask to introduce such tagging solely in<br></div><div dir="auto">cases where preprocessing is doomed to fail?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If it is second case of preprocessing being impossible -<br></div><div dir="auto">why do massive duplication and ask to duplicate ref value <br></div><div dir="auto">AND name value AND highway value?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">------------<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Also, I think that<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/119380508">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/119380508</a> is clearly a sidewalk<br></div><div dir="auto">of that road.<br></div><div><br></div><div>2 gru 2022, 13:31 od supaplex@riseup.net:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><p></p><div>Paths and ways along a road can be mapped separately in OSM, but
those separate geometries cannot be identified as part of the
road, or only with the significant effort of using geometric
processing (which most applications can't perform). However, the
information whether a path is attendant to a road or not is
important for many use cases and can offer various advantages.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Therefore, a sidepath concept using the tag "is_sidepath" as an
additional tag on ways (in particular cycle ways or foot paths) is
proposed to indicate whether a way is related/attendant to a road
(i.e. adjacent and parallel to a road) or whether it runs
independently/isolated without any relationship to a road.
Furthermore, an extended set of sub-tags is proposed to allow to
explicitly tag important road attributes on the sidepath itself.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:is_sidepath" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:is_sidepath</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> You can discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page or here.<br></div><p></p><p>Best, Alex<br></p></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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