<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It makes sense to me that each segment of a long distance walking/hiking route should be looked at individually. It might have no name (uses a section of a driveway), it might have a name of its own (the “San Clemente Beach Trail” near me is part of the long distance “California Coastal Trail”), or it might have been purpose built for that long distance route.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My issue with hiking routes is that people seem to want to use the name field as a description. And they sometimes want to use the ref field as a description too. That makes it really hard for a data consumer to make use of the information. I wrote some stuff about that a bit over a year ago [1].</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Tod</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">[1] <a href="https://retiredtechie.fitchfamily.org/2021/09/12/california-hiking-routes-in-openstreetmap/" class="">https://retiredtechie.fitchfamily.org/2021/09/12/california-hiking-routes-in-openstreetmap/</a><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 29, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Zeke Farwell <<a href="mailto:ezekielf@gmail.com" class="">ezekielf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I've heard the assertion that a way has no name but the route that passes over it does many times. While this is true in some cases, in others it is not. Where the primary purpose of the way is not for the route, this does make sense. For example mentioned by Jmapb where the Appalachian trail follows an unnamed driveway or sidewalk. In these cases, the primary purpose is a driveway or sidewalk for local use, and the Appalachian Trail just happens to follow it as well. Here putting the name Appalachian Trail on the way makes no sense. However, there are also dedicated sections of trail built first and foremost to be a part of the Appalachian Trail and that have no other name. Omitting the name Appalachian Trail in a case like that makes no sense to me. That section of trail is indeed called the Appalachian Trail. The whole route is also called the Appalachian Trail and that's ok. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 10:38 AM Jmapb <<a href="mailto:jmapb@gmx.com" class="">jmapb@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="">Yes, the way name tag should be the most local trail name.
However, sometimes there is no local trail name and the long
distance route name is the only name. In this case putting
the long distance route name on the ways also makes sense.</div>
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</blockquote><p class="">I've been doing some mapping on the Appalachian Trail lately and
this appears to be the common practice, although the AT is
dominant enough that constituent trails sometimes lose their local
names over time.</p><p class="">Some mappers will take it a little too far and tag sections of
sidewalk and driveway that the AT follows with name=Appalachian
Trail (or even name=Appalachian National Scenic Trail... IMO this
is an official_name, and probably only belongs on the route
superrelation.)</p><p class="">It's common to see ref=AT as well, which is fine on trails (even
locally named ones) and perhaps ok on the sidewalks, but adding it
to a vehicular road seems iffy.</p><p class="">Jason<br class="">
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