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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Feb 13, 2023, 20:14 by fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,<br></div><div><div><br></div><div class=""><div class="" dir="ltr">Le lun. 13 févr. 2023 à 14:11, Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=""><div><p>> By the way, I saw some changes leading to x10 contribution
rates and be criticized as disrupting longstanding practices or
established tagging.<br></p><p>An actual example would be really useful here.<br></p></div></blockquote><div>Here are some, very specific tagging but whatever:<br></div><div>* Back to 2013, replacing power=station and power=sub_station by power=substation and power=plant<br></div><div>Respectively 40000 + 110000 in 5 years (30k/year) versus 500000 + 70000 in 8 years (71k/year) => x2.3<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Have you compared increase in activity with change in OSM activity in general<br></div><div dir="auto">or other unrelated object types where no such changes happened?<br></div><div dir="auto">For example other power network tagging where no such proposal happened<br></div><div dir="auto">or happened at a different time?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It seems dubious to attribute that change solely to this deprecation.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">More likely seems that whatever reason caused greater interest resulted in the<br></div><div dir="auto">increased mapping activity and tagging proposals.<br></div><div dir="auto">Not that tagging proposals resulted in greater activity.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is it possible that change in tag use was result of imports?<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class=""><div><br></div><div>* In 2018, replacement of voltage-high/voltage-low by voltage:primary/voltage:secondary<br></div><div>Respectively 6200 + 4600 in 8 years (1350/year) versus 110000+95000 in 5 years (41k/year) => x30<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/voltage%3Aprimary#chronology">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/voltage%3Aprimary#chronology</a> has clear<br></div><div dir="auto">sign of import/bot edits<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">no idea why you would attribute that to tagging proposal<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class=""><div><br></div><div>* In 2021, replacement of tower:type=branch by line_management=branch or split or cross<br></div><div>Respectively 3600 in 7 years (515/year) versus 22030 in 2 years (11k/year) => x21<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">here using tower:type was a clear mistake, so making tagging this detail more acceptable<br></div><div dir="auto">could have a good effects.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Though not sure had this tag change had any serious opposition.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class=""><div>Regarding the valuable point you make on tagging meta data making osm tags invisible for common users, I wonder why we are busy with writing readable proposals and then stuck on updating manually every toolchain with the same information.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">because various tool do different things with OSM data<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(though area data type for example would help, see<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://github.com/osmlab/osm-data-model/discussions/9">https://github.com/osmlab/osm-data-model/discussions/9</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://github.com/osmlab/osm-data-model/issues/44">https://github.com/osmlab/osm-data-model/issues/44</a> )<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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