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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Feb 25, 2023, 20:57 by gdt@lexort.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org> writes<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote><div>what worse, even if tagged in say highway=service this gate may<br></div><div>be not large enough to fit a car<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>highway=service by definition is enough for cars so if there is a gate<br></div><div>on a highway=service that does admit cars on both sides, but is not wide<br></div><div>enough for a car, then I would say this is mistagged and there should be<br></div><div>a short way that is path or whatever.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Good point, I even argued for that viewpoint recently.<br></div><div dir="auto">Still, car can fit but maybe lets say that bus will not fit.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><blockquote><div>With<br></div><div><br></div><div> access=private<br></div><div> foot=yes<br></div><div> locked=yes<br></div><div><br></div><div>then it says that phsical passage is not possible and hence if people<br></div><div>can walk around then it needs a way representing walking around.<br></div></blockquote><div>this one is tricky and expecting that it will be used consistently<br></div><div>will not work well<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>True, but we have to guess at what is right, and then when users do it<br></div><div>wrong explain and fix.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">I kind of hope for more clear solution.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><div>+1 to separate bypass ways if matching reality<br></div><div>not sure how to handle cases where bypass way does not work<br></div><div>(for example you can crawl under lift gate, it is allowed, you cannot get <br></div><div>around it)<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I guess that's still a separate way that's path with a height<br></div><div>restriction, even if it overlaps.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">I was thinking about case where there is no path at, you walk on road,<br></div><div dir="auto">under lift gate.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><blockquote><blockquote><div>I realize there have been "but we can invent complicated bypass tags"<br></div><div>but those seem to not interact well with existing data consumers and it<br></div><div>does not seem we have consensus.<br></div></blockquote><div>+1 though some cases where bypass way does not work are annoying<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think if we let it overlap it's ok.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element</a><br></div><div dir="auto">If there is only road and there is no path then mapping path does<br></div><div dir="auto">not work well either.<br></div> </body>
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