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<div><br></div><div>In general I agree but<br></div><div><br></div><div>Feb 25, 2023, 19:58 by gdt@lexort.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>I am assuming -- but the wiki is unclear -- that<br></div><div><br></div><div> access=private, tagged on barrier=gate<br></div><div><br></div><div>means that all modes of travel have a right of access only with<br></div><div>permission<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">note that some may not physically fit (even with permission your elephant<br></div><div dir="auto">may be still not fitting some entrances)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> and that<br></div><div><br></div><div> access=private<br></div><div> foot=yes<br></div><div><br></div><div>means that all modes need permission except for foot which has a legal<br></div><div>right to pass.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">note that often foot=permissive would be more accurate<br></div><div dir="auto">but foot=yes is used<br></div><div dir="auto">(especially common in areas where legal right of way is rare or not<br></div><div dir="auto">existing and basically all =yes are actually =permissive)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>With<br></div><div><br></div><div> access=private<br></div><div> foot=yes<br></div><div> locked=no<br></div><div><br></div><div>then it's clear that physical passage is possible for all modes.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">not entirely<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">for example if tagged on highway=footway line then I would<br></div><div dir="auto">not assume that car would fit there<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">what worse, even if tagged in say highway=service this gate may<br></div><div dir="auto">be not large enough to fit a car<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> With<br></div><div><br></div><div> access=private<br></div><div> foot=yes<br></div><div> locked=yes<br></div><div><br></div><div>then it says that phsical passage is not possible and hence if people<br></div><div>can walk around then it needs a way representing walking around.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">this one is tricky and expecting that it will be used consistently<br></div><div dir="auto">will not work well<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">+1 to separate bypass ways if matching reality<br></div><div dir="auto">not sure how to handle cases where bypass way does not work<br></div><div dir="auto">(for example you can crawl under lift gate, it is allowed, you cannot get <br></div><div dir="auto">around it)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>I realize there have been "but we can invent complicated bypass tags"<br></div><div>but those seem to not interact well with existing data consumers and it<br></div><div>does not seem we have consensus.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">+1 though some cases where bypass way does not work are annoying<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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