<div dir="ltr"><div>During discussions on one of the proposals that finished up as emergency=water_rescue (<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_talk:Emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Use_on_Rescue-related_sites">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_talk:Emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Use_on_Rescue-related_sites</a>), there was suggestion of office=government + government=transportation + emergency=control_centre for those establishments which control emergency operations, rather than house emergency workers e.g.<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/267835828">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/267835828</a></div><div><br></div><div>I have thought about documenting a proposal for that but haven't got to it</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 22:00, Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com">gdt@lexort.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> The places (stations etc) where the emergency response come from would<br>
> not be an 'office'; "An office is a place of business where<br>
> administrative or professional work is carried out. " e.g. lawyers,<br>
> accountants, records,<br>
<br>
In the US we have the concept of "Emergency Management Agency" which is<br>
at least partly not something like firefighters/ambulance/police. These<br>
exist at federal, state, county and local levels. They more or less does<br>
three things:<br>
<br>
planning and training for future emergencies. Creation of "Local<br>
Emergency Plan" documents. Coordinating that lots of people have<br>
taken a dizzying array of classes. Perhaps hosting classes.<br>
<br>
operating an Emergency Operations Center where command staff decide<br>
what various resources are going to do during an emergency.<br>
<br>
has some staff who function more or less like firefighters in that<br>
they go to locations where emergency services are needed and do urban<br>
search and rescue, swift water rescue, damage assessment<br>
<br>
<br>
The first one is definitely office=government government=emergency. I<br>
think the second one is too.<br>
<br>
A facility that houses equipment that personnel from the third case use<br>
as a response base feels like emergency=ses_station.<br>
<br>
Sometimes there are facilities that do all three. There is a federal<br>
facility in New England that is at least both 2&3 and surely they must<br>
do 1.<br>
<br>
<br>
Overall I think I'm agreeing with Warin here - some functions of "Civil<br>
Defense" (as it used to be called before that was politically incorrect)<br>
are office functions, and some are conceptually similar to fire/rescue<br>
departments.<br>
<br>
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