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<div>During discussions on one of the proposals that finished up
as emergency=water_rescue (<a
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there was suggestion of office=government +
government=transportation + emergency=control_centre for those
establishments which control emergency operations, rather than
house emergency workers e.g.<a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/267835828"
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<p>Don't 'like' the 'transportation' as there is no transportation
function at these offices. <br>
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<p>office=government <br>
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<p>government=emergency</p>
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<p>There is already an emergency key .. overloaded with values</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emergency_facilities_and_amenities">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emergency_facilities_and_amenities</a></p>
<p>I suppose a few more would not be out of the question? <br>
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<p>emergency=control_centre/administration ??? <br>
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<div>I have thought about documenting a proposal for that but
haven't got to it</div>
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Too many things on the ' to do' list. Me too. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 22:00,
Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com"
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The places (stations etc) where the emergency response come
from would<br>
> not be an 'office'; "An office is a place of business
where<br>
> administrative or professional work is carried out. "
e.g. lawyers,<br>
> accountants, records,<br>
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In the US we have the concept of "Emergency Management Agency"
which is<br>
at least partly not something like
firefighters/ambulance/police. These<br>
exist at federal, state, county and local levels. They more
or less does<br>
three things:<br>
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planning and training for future emergencies. Creation of
"Local<br>
Emergency Plan" documents. Coordinating that lots of people
have<br>
taken a dizzying array of classes. Perhaps hosting classes.<br>
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operating an Emergency Operations Center where command staff
decide<br>
what various resources are going to do during an emergency.<br>
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has some staff who function more or less like firefighters
in that<br>
they go to locations where emergency services are needed and
do urban<br>
search and rescue, swift water rescue, damage assessment<br>
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The first one is definitely office=government
government=emergency. I<br>
think the second one is too.<br>
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A facility that houses equipment that personnel from the third
case use<br>
as a response base feels like emergency=ses_station.<br>
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Sometimes there are facilities that do all three. There is a
federal<br>
facility in New England that is at least both 2&3 and
surely they must<br>
do 1.<br>
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Overall I think I'm agreeing with Warin here - some functions
of "Civil<br>
Defense" (as it used to be called before that was politically
incorrect)<br>
are office functions, and some are conceptually similar to
fire/rescue<br>
departments.<br>
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