<div dir="auto">Be careful: oneway=* is a legal access tag, only valid for vehicles, not for pedestrians.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 9 Sep 2023, 07:05 Andrew Harvey, <<a href="mailto:andrew.harvey4@gmail.com">andrew.harvey4@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I have previously proposed the tag path=mtb <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Tag:path%3Dmtb" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Tag:path%3Dmtb</a> as a way to say it's a purpose built mountain biking track (which if it has features like jumps, skinnies, berms etc would make it such). Unfortunately the proposal could not gain a consistent consensus about the best way to tag purpose built mountain biking tracks/trails and didn't develop further, so while it won't impact rendering, you can still use this proposed tag.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 9 Sept 2023 at 03:09, Bryce Nesbitt <<a href="mailto:bryce2@obviously.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bryce2@obviously.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div><div>I recently went on a hike, guided only by OSMAnd.  We ended up planning a route</div><div>that took us uphill on what turned out to be a long series of <span>one</span> <span>way</span> downhill mountain bike <span>flow</span> <span>tracks</span>.</div><div><br></div><div>I have no problem with the <span>flow</span> track: just had it been clearly delineated we would have planned a different route more suited to hiking.</div><div>But I was left without clear tagging ideas.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span>One</span> of the trails was</div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/593945914#map=19/37.99250/-122.50667" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<span>way</span>/593945914#map=19/37.99250/-122.50667</a><br></div><div><table style="caption-side:bottom;background-color:rgb(248,248,255);table-layout:fixed;border-spacing:0px;width:318px;margin-bottom:1rem;color:rgb(33,37,41);font-family:system-ui,-apple-system,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans","Liberation Sans",sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji";font-size:14px;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);border-radius:0.25rem"><tbody style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500"><a title="The wiki description page for the highway tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">highway</a></th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a title="The wiki description page for the highway=path tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=path?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">path</a></td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500"><a title="The wiki description page for the horse tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:horse?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">horse</a></th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">no</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500"><a title="The wiki description page for the name tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">name</a></th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Bunny</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500"><a title="The wiki description page for the oneway:bicycle tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway:bicycle?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oneway:<span>bicycle</span></a></th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a title="The wiki description page for the oneway:bicycle=yes tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:oneway:bicycle=yes?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">yes</a></td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px;border-bottom-style:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-left-color:inherit;border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500"><a title="The wiki description page for the surface tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">surface</a></th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 0px 1px;border-bottom-style:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a title="The wiki description page for the surface=dirt tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface=dirt?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dirt</a></td></tr></tbody></table>With a clear direction, as it has jumps that can only be completed in a single direction, and is all but impossible to cycle the "wrong way" on.</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Is this trail tagged the best that can be? </div><div><br></div><div>Is there a way to better hint to rendering that this should look different from a "standard" hiking trail, perhaps tagged:</div><div><table style="caption-side:bottom;background-color:rgb(248,248,255);table-layout:fixed;border-spacing:0px;width:318px;margin-bottom:1rem;color:rgb(33,37,41);font-family:system-ui,-apple-system,"Segoe UI",Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Arial,"Noto Sans","Liberation Sans",sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol","Noto Color Emoji";font-size:14px;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);border-radius:0.25rem"><tbody style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500"><a title="The wiki description page for the highway tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">highway</a></th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a title="The wiki description page for the highway=path tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=path?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">path</a></td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500">name</th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Hiking Trail</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500">surface</th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">dirt</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500"><a title="The wiki description page for the oneway:bicycle tag" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway:bicycle?uselang=en" style="color:rgb(34,68,221);box-sizing:border-box;text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bicycle</a><br></th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 1px 1px;border-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">permissive</td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box;border-style:solid;border-width:0px"><th style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px;border-bottom-style:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-left-color:inherit;border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;font-weight:500"><br></th><td style="box-sizing:border-box;border-top-color:inherit;border-right-color:inherit;border-width:0px 0px 0px 1px;border-bottom-style:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;width:158.2px;padding:6px 10px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></td></tr></tbody></table><br></div><div>I see that even <i>OpenCyclemap </i>does not draw directional arrows on the "Bunny" trail or other oneway:bicycle=yes routes.</div><div><br></div></div>
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