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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/10/23 10:32, Paul Johnson wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at
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              <div>On 17/10/23 23:22, Paul Johnson wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 17,
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                        <div>On 17/10/23 04:17, Paul Johnson wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="auto">Presently, it's common for
                            route relations to have names that violate
                            "name is only the name" and "name is not
                            ref" and "name is not description" rules for
                            name=* tags. <br>
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                        <p>I don't find it common in 'my area' of
                          mapping. One or two examples would demonstrate
                          the situation? <br>
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                        <p>In any case:<br>
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                        <p>The name tag is used on may things for
                          example; buildings, parks, schools, highways
                          ... </p>
                        <p>The use of the name tag as 'name only'
                          applies where ever the name tag is used. This
                          is similar for other tags such as elevation,
                          width, colour etc. No matter what feature they
                          are used on the tags carry the same
                          characteristics and restrictions. It is not
                          necessary to repeat these characteristics and
                          restrictions for every main feature. <br>
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                    <div>Routes have names, too!  For example, here's
                      the relation for OK 51, named for the name of the
                      route.  <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3108562" target="_blank"
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                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3108562</a></div>
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                    <div>Meanwhile, I 40 in Arkansas has a good example
                      of a name that is actually a ref and a
                      description, not a name.  <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6843700" target="_blank"
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                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6843700</a></div>
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                    <div> Finally, OK 19 is an example of a properly
                      described no-name route.  <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7479405" target="_blank"
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                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7479405</a></div>
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              <p>Ok. I still don't see a necessity of repeating the name
                tag information inside the relation tag... Will you also
                repeat the ref tag information, the description tag
                information? How about the surface tag, maxspeed tag etc
                etc.. <br>
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          <div>The name of the route has nothing to do with the name of
            the member ways. <br>
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    <p>Confusing is probably the issue here? <br>
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    <p>I am taking of 'the name tag' possibly I should have said the
      'OSM key name' .. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name</a></p>
    <p>Not taking of any individual feature with a 'name tag'. <br>
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