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<body><div dir="auto">Out of curiosity, I looked the Web for wiggly pavement for drainage. Somme pavement have extra tips on the side for increased spacing. <br>Apparently, as long as it's built on sand, the drainage is pretty good, no mention of a loose setup.<br>Maybe the politician is very good at his job? ;-)<br>Yves </div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">Le 21 février 2024 12:25:39 GMT+01:00, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org> a écrit :</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>yes, I think paving_stones is right, but I'm fairly convinced
that it was built wiggly on purpose, otherwise the politician
wouldn't have had a special word for it. I couldn't find anything
on wikipedia about the topic, unfortunately.</p>
<p>Cycling across is not a problem, if you don't mind the sound. I
don't think the whole width of the street is paved wiggly, just
enough to let the water drain, so skaters could use it on the
sides. <br>
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<p>I wasn't too concerned about the mapping for traffic users of the
street, more for flood prevention analysis, but maybe that's just
not within the scope yet.</p>
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<div dir="auto">I also would go with surface=paving_stones - and
maybe add also smoothness tag,<br>
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<div dir="auto">Feb 21, 2024, 01:47 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fernando.trebien@gmail.com">fernando.trebien@gmail.com</a>:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I think they are surface=paving_stones
because:<br>
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<div dir="auto">- it seems that the objective was to arrange
them snugly, although the fit may have deteriorated a little<br>
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<div dir="auto">- it seems pretty easy to ride a bike there,
but not skate, which is what one generally expects from
surface=paving_stones; surface=sett is a little more
difficult for cycling because the stones are less flat and
the surface as a whole is also less flat<br>
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<div>I think surface=sett is usually more like this: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.345215550023994&lng=-6.265817519990492&z=19.230259053537715&pKey=516305962724410&focus=photo&x=0.5077006613416395&y=0.5849426144442357&zoom=0" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.345215550023994&lng=-6.265817519990492&z=19.230259053537715&pKey=516305962724410&focus=photo&x=0.5077006613416395&y=0.5849426144442357&zoom=0</a><br>
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<p>That's the best I can do for now: <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=52.651926666667&lng=-7.2515966666667&z=17&pKey=1685817985195902&focus=photo&x=0.22772882642716127&y=0.968169011381621&zoom=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=52.651926666667&lng=-7.2515966666667&z=17&pKey=1685817985195902&focus=photo&x=0.22772882642716127&y=0.968169011381621&zoom=0</a>
You can kind of see the gaps between the stones.<br>
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<div dir="auto">On February 17, 2024 5:19:06 PM UTC,
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<pre><div dir="auto">I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between surface=sett and
surface=paved or if what I'm trying to map is covered by either. Where I
live, there are some streets that are paved, but the stones aren't set
firmly, so they wobble a bit when you drive/ cycle over them. It is
perfectly safe, but it allows rainwater to drain quicker, at least I
think that is the reason for this type of paving. It sounds a bit like a
xylophone (well, lithophone, I guess), when going over them.
Considering climate change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc, it
would be important to map the difference between paved streets that
don't allow for quick drainage and these loosely paved streets. There is
probably some technical term for it.
So, in short: Do we have a tagging scheme for those or not?
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