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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I would re-iterate Martin's assertion.<br>
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In Norway, we tag bicycle=designated/foot=designated when there is
a traffic sign for cycleway/footway/combined. Implicit in this
logic is that the consequence of the traffic sign is a different
legal status compared to an unsigned road. A route sign is not a
traffic sign and causes no change in legal status. We would not
use =designated nor =yes merely because of a route sign. The route
sign tells us to add a route relation to the way.<br>
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Jens<br>
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On 30/04/2024 10:49, Szem wrote:<br>
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There was a similar conversation in the Hungarian community as
well. I would like to ask what you think about such (and similar)
official bicycle route signs:<br>
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href="https://www.google.hu/maps/@47.4653939,18.8056303,3a,16.7y,337.24h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5KRYaFzRIWPFrMwQBrYf9g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu"
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do they imply a bicycle=designated value for the road if it is not
a cycleway (because it is unnecessary for that), or is it enough
to just put the lcn/rcn etc. value on the road.<br>
Thanks, Szem<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">2024.04.30. 09:09 keltezéssel, Martin
Koppenhoefer írta:<br>
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<div dir="auto">In fact, some bicycle trails are signed
where<br>
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<div>So does that then make it legal?</div>
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<div>no, in Germany it also happens from time to time that we
discover signposted bicycle routes where cycling is legally
forbidden, often presumably because the signs are not
“correct” (not what is intended), and the legal conclusion
from such a situation is you have to push the bike on such
sections. Route markers do not change legal accessibility as
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