<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 23:57, Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div>In terms of access rights*, I've always thought that (in England
and Wales**) "yes" and "designated" mean both "a legal right to
access", as opposed to "permissive" that means "you can go there,
but that right can be removed by the landowner whenever they
wish". What would you say the difference between "yes" and
"designated" are?<br></div>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Andy</p></div></blockquote><div>Need to point out for others reading this than I am in England, and influenced by what I believe was likely the original intent of these tags, that is mapping of the "English/Welsh, rights of way"</div><div><br></div><div>I've always treated " foot|bicycle|horse=yes, as a means of showing I confidently believe with evidence available that access is allowed. Done with regard to the defaults for tag (eg don't add when highway=footway)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Designated & Permissive allow me to tag in more detail if evidence is available to support tags<br></div><div>I use ''designated" for where there is a demonstrable "right of access" eg Specific recognisable signage, online usable data, etc, which demonstrates a legislative or contractual, rights of way.</div><div>I use "permissive" for the common British situation of ways being provided on private land, and where the owner has displayed signage to inform the public that the way is "Permissive" and not an English/Welsh "Public Right of Way". (This should block the private way becoming a "right of way" through continuous use.)<br><br>Issues I have are separating "legal right of access" and the ability to actually use the way. A common problem with British/Welsh rights of way which do not have to be managed to to allow all foot users<br><br>Jass</div></div></div>