<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 7:07 AM Greg Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com">gdt@lexort.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">António Madeira via Tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>> writes:<br>
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> What I meant is that even if that "ref=49" is wrongly associated to<br>
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It does seem like someone is adding incorrect refs based on a<br>
misunderstanding, and it would be good to have that resolved. People<br>
with strong opinions doing wrong things and the db ending up that way is<br>
an unfortunate part of OSM, but comes with the good parts of evolving<br>
tagging.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to start formally deprecating ref=* on ways. Ref to describe routes on ways violates the "one object, one OSM entity guideline," and is one of the reasons relations were created as a primitive in OSM in the first place. If the ref=* on ways dinosaur was allowed to die the death it should have 15 years ago.</div><div><br></div><div></div></div></div>