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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Andy from OSM's Data Working Group here.</p>
<p>We were asked to help decided what the _maritime_ borders should
be around Ceuta and Melilla (Spanish enclaves on the Moroccan
coast). We suggested that the person asking ask the rest of the
community on the main talk list, which they did:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-January/085937.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-January/085937.html</a></p>
<p>Follow-up messages are
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-January/086026.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-January/086026.html</a>
and
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-February/086077.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-February/086077.html</a>
.</p>
<p>It'd be good to have some views from the OSM community in
Morocco. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetmap.community/">https://openstreetmap.community/</a> unfortunately does have
any specific Moroccan links, so I'm posting here.</p>
<p>What we're really asking about is the de-facto situation. We're
aware that Morocco believes that the land under Ceuta and Melilla
should be part of Morocco, but that isn't the question that we're
asking - we know that Spain currently controls these territories,
and are asking how far into the sea that control extends.<br>
</p>
<p>Best Regards</p>
<p>Andy Townsend</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span>(la
traduction automatique en français suit)</span></span></span>
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<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Bonjour,
<br>
</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Andy
du groupe de travail sur les données d'OSM ici. <br>
</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span>On
nous a demandé d'aider à décider quelles devraient être les
frontières «maritimes» autour de Ceuta et Melilla (enclaves
espagnoles sur la côte marocaine). Nous avons suggéré que la
personne qui pose la question demande au reste de la
communauté sur la liste de discussion principale, ce qu'elle
a fait: <br>
</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-January/085937.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-January/085937.html</a>
<br>
</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Les
messages de suivi sont
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-January/086026.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-January/086026.html</a>
et
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-February/086077.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2021-February/086077.html</a>
. <br>
</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Ce
serait bien d'avoir quelques points de vue de la communauté
OSM au Maroc. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://openstreetmap.community/">https://openstreetmap.community/</a> a
malheureusement des liens marocains spécifiques, donc je
poste ici. <br>
</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Ce
que nous demandons vraiment, c'est la situation de facto.
Nous sommes conscients que le Maroc estime que les terres
sous Ceuta et Melilla devraient faire partie du Maroc, mais
ce n'est pas la question que nous nous posons - nous savons
que l'Espagne contrôle actuellement ces territoires et se
demande jusqu'où dans la mer ce contrôle s'étend. <br>
</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Meilleures
salutations <br>
</span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi" lang="fr"><span class="JLqJ4b"
data-language-for-alternatives="fr"
data-language-to-translate-into="en" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Andy
Townsend</span></span></span> </p>
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