[talk-au] license change map

[Ben Kelley]

I think I'm in a similar situation. Some of my work is derived (e.g. Nearmap). Therefore I can't agree to the CT as they stand.

OK worst case: Suppose that (and similar) data got deleted. Suppose there are enough people prepared to trust OSM afterwards to re-map the parts that can be remapped.

What happens in the 2-3 years it takes to get back the "surveyable" data? People who use OSM will need something else in the meantime. That's a long time.

I hope something can be worked out with the derived data. I don't want my hard work to have been wasted.


  - Ben.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Hope <slhope at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 22 November 2010 16:25
To: OSM Australian Talk List <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] license change map

On 22 November 2010 11:31, Ian Sergeant <inas66+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
> It is hard to believe that those red cities and towns are created entirely
> from data that can't be relicenced.

Take me as an example.  I don't care what licence we use - as far as
I'm concerned all my work can be PD.  If people want to take things
I've done, modify them and don't give them back, I don't care.  A lot
of people seem to, but as long as my stuff is still available, I don't
see the problem. I already do similar things with Project Gutenberg -
books that I've worked on there and are available for free are sold to
idiots for money. The book is still available for free, that's the
important bit.

But I cannot agree to the new CT's in the format they are now. Any
personal work I've done, not a problem.  But I've used sources that
were compatible with CC_BY-SA, and are compatible afaik with ODBL.
But the CT's say that anything I give them now can later be changed to
any other licence, which they may not be compatible with, and I can't
say at that point say wait - this needs to come out.  As I read it,
that means that nobody can, under the CT's, use any source that is not
PD, because that's all that's going to be safe no matter what happens
in the future.

I haven't done anything as much as Liz, but my fingerprints are all
over SE QLD, as well as other parts of Australia, the Pacific and
Africa.  All of that is going to have to stay red or yellow unless
something changes, including all the stuff I did by GPS survey.
There's no way I've got the ability to sort it all out at this stage.


Stephen

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