On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Liz <<a href="mailto:edodd@billiau.net">edodd@billiau.net</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Just been on a long trip on a "State Road"<br>
And had too much time on the road to consider the classification of NSW roads<br>
The current classification tells us nothing about the road itself, merely<br>
whether the the State of NSW pays the Council to keep the Road in order, or<br>
if the council does it out of more general funding.</blockquote><div><br>The State Road status is meaningless, but the State Highway shields are not... <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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So in Vic, the A, B, C, does in fact tell you about the road condition.Or is<br>
meant too.<br>
Ref VicRoads Drivers guide to Rural Victoria Aug 2002<br>
so in Vic a 'C' Road "will generally be two lane sealed roads with shoulders.<br>
'B' Roads will have sealed pavements with two traffic lanes, with good<br>
centreline and edge linemarking, shoulders and a high standard of guidepost<br>
delineation. Additional overtaking lanes will be provided on higher<br>
volume 'B' roads to improve road safety and capacity.</blockquote><div><br>One supposes that when the RTA finally unveils these in NSW, they will reflect the same kind of scheme - ie the Monaro Highway south of Cooma is being downgraded to B23 IIRC...<br>
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In fact the recent discussion about Adelaide is the same problem - do we use<br>
the classification used by governments with alternate agendas or do we mark<br>
what is there and how people use it?<br>
That crazy Southern Expressway in Adelaide doesn't even qualify for M status<br>
because it isn't a divided carriageway with 4 traffic lanes.<br>
(For those who have never seen this piece of engineering, it is one way, which<br>
way depending on the time of day).<br>
</blockquote><div><br>I think the Southern Expressway certainly is of M status - just because
its only one carriageway doesn't reduce that carriageway's motorway
standards. It's never two way, so it's fine IMHO. On the other hand, the Cahill Expressway in Sydney is a bloody joke... no median strip, two lanes each way, of which only one is a through lane going east...<br></div>
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