<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>When I made that edit, I probably worded it wrongly, as I meant that the residential tag was to be used in rural areas, but by that I meant local streets in the towns. But I made that edit when I didn't really know there was a mailing list or other real means of communication with other mappers.</div><div><br></div><div>Currently, for local roads, I use residential for all local streets which have houses along them. I use unclassified for all other local roads, such as ones that run through industrial estates, rural areas past paddocks, virtually everything except for residential areas. I assume this is sort of in line with what other mappers are tagging.</div><br><div><div>On 05/08/2009, at 7:46 PM, Liz wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">lakeyboy or others, can you recall the evidence for this change?<br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Jonathan Bennett <<a href="mailto:openstreetmap@jonno.cix.co.uk">openstreetmap@jonno.cix.co.uk</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">5 August 2009 7:37:53 PM<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">James Livingston <<a href="mailto:doctau@mac.com">doctau@mac.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag</b><br></span></div><br><br>James Livingston wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">In addition the "Australian Tagging Guidelines" (which Liz mentioned <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">were written a year before the residential page) explicitly disagree <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">with the residential page.<br></blockquote><br>I've done some investigation on this specific point, and found the<br>following:<br><br>The edit which added the current definition of residential roads to that<br>page was made on 2nd January 2008<br>(<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Australian_Tagging_Guidelines&diff=67689&oldid=66241">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Australian_Tagging_Guidelines&diff=67689&oldid=66241</a>)<br>by Lakeyboy in an edit with no summary. I can find no discussion of this<br>change on the wiki talk page or Talk-AU beforehand.<br><br>I can only assume, based on the available evidence, that this wasn't a<br>change that the Australian OSM community arrived at through consensus.<br>Rather it was one mapper's idea that he didn't discuss with anyone<br>before putting into the wiki. The change was also made after the<br>convention for the residential tag had been established elsewhere.<br><br>It's up to the AU community what to do about this, but be aware that in<br>the European Axis there's a very strong feeling that for a road to be<br>tagged residential, there needs to be houses (or other dwellings) on it,<br>and for it not to be designed for through traffic.<br><br>-- <br>Jonathan (Jonobennett)<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>talk mailing list<br><a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-au mailing list<br>Talk-au@openstreetmap.org<br>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>