<div class="gmail_quote">On 6 December 2012 19:17, Steve Bennett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stevagewp@gmail.com" target="_blank">stevagewp@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I'm all in favour of recording subjective information about the rideability of individual streets - in fact there are several other projects out there doing this already. I don't think misusing the LCN/RCN tags is the right way to do this though. A few reasons:<br>
- You can't record anything about *why* this is a good route <br>- You can't record different levels of goodness<br>- You can't distinguish between "this is a good route" and "this is actually a signed cycle route"<br>
</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>I think you are overstating my position.<br><br>Fundamentally, I think it is a continuous set of navigational signs that should be the primary indicator of a bicycle route, preferably agreeing with some documentation from the relevant authority. <br>
<br>However, we need to take care we don't get to the point where blue bicycle sign implies bicycle route in OSM.<br><br>So, there are several reasons we should not tag these "official" routes in OSM..<br>
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1. If they are wholly unsuitable for cycling of any form.<br><br>2. If it is a "cyclists get the hell outta here" situation. Implemented to remove cyclists from a way rather than give them a positive route.<br>
<br>3. If it is only a planned route. <br><br>4. If it is outdated and a newer route has been implemented (and the old signs just happen to be still in place).<br><br>I can only see one reason where we should tag an section that is not part of an "official route", and that is where it logically connects two signposted sections, and it would be obvious to the reasonable cyclist after consulting any available documentation that the signs for the intermediate section are just omitted.<br>
<br>I don't think this is an issue with routes like railtrails. They are put together with care. However, this is very applicable to RTA routes and council routes. Some of the RTA maps are decades old, and are really bad. Some of the council signposts are downright crazy.<br>
<br>In 95% of cases, I'm sure we would agree with what should be a cycle route and what shouldn't be.<br><br>Ian.<br>